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544. How Trump Is Weaponising AI and Martial Arts at the White House

Explore episode Jun 17, 2026

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Musk, Zuckerberg and the Masculinity Question

At 36:55 · chapter starts 35:10

Rory Stewart uses the UFC spectacle to ask a broader question about masculinity and politics: would this have happened 20 or 30 years ago, and are we becoming more violent? He and Campbell discuss the abandoned Musk-Zuckerberg fight — reportedly cancelled when Musk discovered that Zuckerberg had been training seriously for two hours a day with a martial arts master. Campbell notes polling: only 13% of Americans approved of the White House UFC event, and only one in three Republicans. The hosts then connect this to a broader question about Trump's birthday priorities: the G7 summit was delayed by a full day because Trump wanted his UFC event first. Rory draws a structural comparison: Trump as Roman emperor, staging spectacles for his own gratification and expecting the world to accommodate his schedule.

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The Banalisation Problem: How Trump Survives Everything

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Alastair Campbell invoked the German concept of 'banalisation' — the process by which the AfD became normalised in German media — and argued Trump has already been fully banalised in the US and UK press. A Democrat friend told him to stop getting angry about the UFC event because that's exactly what Trump wants. Campbell rejected the advice.

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