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675. Has the New York Times Become a Games Company?

Explore episode May 15, 2026

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Intro Riddle and the Case for Play

At 3:20 · chapter starts 1:59

Dubner's riddle — what do we celebrate in children but look down on in adults? — lands on 'play,' and from there he constructs a case that games deserve more serious attention than they get. He quotes Canadian philosopher Bernard Suits' 1978 definition of game playing as 'the voluntary attempt to overcome unnecessary obstacles,' noting drily that it could double as a definition of life itself. The American Time Use Survey places gaming as Americans' second most popular leisure activity, behind only watching TV — and much of what we watch on TV is live sports, which are themselves games. Dubner frames this as the launch of a new Freakonomics Radio series: 'We Are All Gamers Now.'

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