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Trump’s 4th Threesome
Trump's financial disclosure shows he made $2.2 billion while in office — at least $1.4 billion from a crypto scheme that lost 80% of its value for ordinary investors.
Pod Save America
Trump’s 4th Threesome
Trump's financial disclosure shows he made $2.2 billion while in office — at least $1.4 billion from a crypto scheme that lost 80% of its value for ordinary investors.
TL;DR
Pod Save America hosts Jon Favreau and Dan Pfeiffer dissect Trump's America 250 celebrations — including a "threesome" Medal of Honor gaffe, a planned 800,000-firework spectacle, and $2.2 billion in presidential self-dealing [1] — Jon Favreau "Trump, speaking at the Theodore Roosevelt Library opening, proposed giving Medals of Honor to himself and his two sons — and called it a 't…" 06:18 . They break down the MAGA freakout over birthright citizenship and Stephen Miller's push to ban pregnant tourists [2] — Jon Favreau "Even the Center for Immigration Studies — a far-right group — puts birth tourism at 20,000 cases a year. Out of 3.61 million US births, tha…" 26:20 , analyze progressive primary wins in Colorado, and dig deep into new NYT/Siena Senate polls showing Democrats competitive but facing a brutal map [3] — Jon Favreau "Reports indicate Kamala Harris is quietly reaching out to Zohran Mamdani, AOC, and the Uncommitted Movement ahead of a possible 2028 run. J…" 45:20 . Key takeaway: persuading voters that Republican senators enabled Trump matters more than attacking Trump himself.
Trump kicks off his Fourth of July celebration at the Theodore Roosevelt Library, where he muses about giving his two sons and himself the Medal of Honor — describing doing so as a 'threesome.' Jon and Dan react to Trump's plans for Independence Day, including a Guinness World Records fireworks display, a marathon speech in 107-degree heat, and a plan for '250 pardons for 250 years.' Then, the guys discuss the administration's desire to ban pregnant tourists from entering the country, Tuesday's progressive primary wins in Colorado, and the new New York Times/Siena poll that shows Democrats effectively tied in the states needed to retake the Senate.
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Jon Favreau and Dan Pfeiffer exchange holiday greetings and reveal their Fourth of July plans. Jon jokes he's heading to Maine to personally win back the Harris-Collins voters — a nod to the Susan Collins Senate race they'll analyze later. Dan reveals his family is staying home for a 'very patriotic, but chill' Fourth, planning to gather around the TV for Trump's speech. The two banter about Dan's milestone birthday — his kids have taken to calling him 'half century old' — before Jon teases the episode's agenda: Trump's $2 billion disclosure, birthright citizenship, Colorado progressive primaries, and a deep dive into new NYT/Siena Senate polls.
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Jon Favreau lays out Trump's Fourth of July itinerary: a trip to the Theodore Roosevelt Library for its opening and a fireworks show at Mount Rushmore, followed by a return to DC for what Trump is billing as 'the most spectacular Trump rally of them all,' featuring over 800,000 fireworks in a bid for the Guinness World Record. Trump also announced he intends to give a 'really long speech' in approximately 107-degree heat 'just to show that I can do anything,' pushing fireworks past 11 PM Eastern. The hosts then play a remarkable clip from the Roosevelt Library where Trump delivers a digressive speech invoking the 'racehorse theory' of genetics, praises Teddy's son's bravery, proposes giving Medals of Honor to himself and his two sons — calling it a 'threesome' — and then holds a conversation with an AI hologram of Teddy Roosevelt about the Panama Canal. Jon and Dan react with bemused astonishment, questioning whether Trump understands how AI holograms work and whether he caught the double entendre.
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Jon poses the question of whether Trump's America 250 spectacle is landing with non-MAGA Americans, and Dan's answer is essentially: no, and for structural reasons. The attention economy is too fragmented, Trump has made the celebration too political, and there's no compulsion for anyone to tune in. Dan reflects on the 1976 bicentennial — an election-year celebration that worked in part because Americans had only three TV channels and the nation's attention was more captive — and notes that people painted fire hydrants red, white, and blue as community acts of participation. A different kind of president, Dan muses, could have used this moment to project genuine national unity, bringing together presidents from both parties onstage. Instead, Trump is making it about himself, which guarantees that half the country will either mock it or ignore it. Jon notes that the real shared national celebration already happened: the United States at the World Cup.
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Jon pivots to two compounding corruption stories. First, Trump is reportedly weighing a mass pardon of 250 people to mark 250 years — an idea The Atlantic reports has set off a 'frenzy of lobbying and dealmaking.' An adviser says polling supports this, prompting Dan to acidly observe that whoever commissioned that poll was almost certainly a criminal or someone making money off criminals. Dan dismantles the political logic: there is no scenario where a mass pardon of rich or connected people is popular. Then comes the bigger story: Trump's 2025 financial disclosure reveals $2.2 billion in earnings while in office, with $1.4 billion coming from World Liberty Financial, his family's crypto operation. Jon reads from the Times: the coin has collapsed to less than $0.06, an over-80% drop from its peak. Dan argues this isn't ordinary investing — Trump weaponized supporter loyalty, got them to buy a bogus coin, then sold a chunk of the company to an Emirati fund, possibly in exchange for America's most valuable technology. The Wall Street Journal editorial board, Jon notes, compared Trump's foreign dealings unfavorably to Hunter Biden's. Dan concludes the corruption is already priced into Trump's 37% approval rating, but the point is to get that stink onto Republican senators.
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Dan Pfeiffer endorses Quince's European linen shirts and pants as summer essentials, noting personal ownership of Quince sweats, a bag, sheets, and sweaters, with prices 50 to 80% below comparable brands. Jon reads for AG1, a daily health drink combining a multivitamin, pre- and probiotics, superfoods, and antioxidants, describing how he incorporates it into his morning smoothie. Both segments direct listeners to brand URLs with Crooked discount codes.
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The Supreme Court struck down Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment, but the reaction from Trump allies was anything but conciliatory. Jon reads from The Daily Wire's Matt Walsh, who declared America is 'committing suicide,' and from The Federalist's Sean Davis, who floated banning all pregnant foreign women from entering the country and requiring sterilization of foreign visitors. Jon reports that Stephen Miller has said he's 'looking into' these ideas, describing the situation as 'national self-obliteration.' The hosts dissect the political logic: with Trump underwater on every issue except border security, MAGA is trying to drag the conversation back to immigration. But the proposed remedy — targeting pregnant tourists — is grotesque and politically moronic. Jon cites even the Center for Immigration Studies, a far-right group, which puts birth tourism at about 20,000 cases per year out of 3.61 million total US births, well under 1%. Dan draws a direct historical parallel to Reagan's welfare queen myth: take the rarest, most outlandish example and use it to dismantle an entire constitutional right. Jon then walks through the Roberts majority's argument: once you adopt the dissent's logic about 'allegiance,' you could strip citizenship from children of legal permanent residents — and ultimately give Trump and Miller the power to decide who is American.
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Tuesday's Colorado primaries delivered a clean sweep for progressives at every level. In the 1st District, 29-year-old DSA candidate Milot Kiros crushed 15-term incumbent Diana DeGette by about 10 points — a result the hosts find entirely legible given the district's Democratic dominance and the anti-establishment wave washing through the party. In the 8th District, progressive state rep Manny Routenell beat a moderate Democrat by 28 points and will now face vulnerable Republican Gabe Evans. And in the governor's race, Attorney General Phil Weiser beat incumbent senator Michael Bennet by 12 points, running on his anti-Trump litigation record. Dan and Jon resist the easy 'progressives vs. moderates' framing, arguing the real driver is voter fury at an establishment perceived as having failed to deliver for working people or adequately fight Trump. Dan notes that the candidates losing aren't necessarily moderates — DeGette was in the Congressional Progressive Caucus — but they were long-established incumbents. Gaza also looms large: Jon argues it functions less as a discrete issue and more as a character test about whether a politician will name what voters are seeing with their own eyes. Bannon, Jon reports, has publicly warned Republicans not to dismiss this wave, comparing it to the early Tea Party — sophisticated anti-establishment campaigning that goes after the opposing party's establishment rather than the president.
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Axios reports that Kamala Harris has been quietly reaching out to progressive leaders — including Zohran Mamdani, AOC, and figures from the Uncommitted Movement — as she weighs a 2028 presidential run. Dan says that six months ago he would have bet against her running, but the accumulating signals suggest she's serious. He argues there is no plausible path to the 2028 nomination that doesn't involve a massive pivot on Gaza and Israel policy, and the outreach to progressive leaders suggests she understands that. But Jon issues a pointed warning: any pivot that looks calculated or focus-grouped will fail. Harris needs to demonstrate genuine, visceral anger — the kind that aides say she felt privately during the 2024 campaign but was never willing to express publicly. She needs to give a Palestinian speaker a slot at the convention, something that seemed crazy not to do in hindsight. She also needs to own personal responsibility for the decisions made, not hide behind the 'I was vice president' defense. More broadly, Jon questions whether Harris has a clear answer to the fundamental question: why does she want to be president? The hosts close by noting that, if historical timing holds, the first Democratic primary debate of 2028 is only about a year away — and the opening skirmishes of what promises to be a brutal intraparty war have already begun.
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Dan Pfeiffer praises Blinds.com's automatic window shades, installed in the Crooked Media office to block afternoon sun glare, and the company's easy professional installation service. Jon reads for Sleep Me's ChiliPad 2.0, a water-cooled mattress topper that controls bed temperature from 55 to 115 degrees to improve sleep quality. Jon notes the device can resolve thermostat wars between partners by allowing different temperatures on each side of the bed. Both segments include listener discount codes.
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Jon walks through the new NYT/Siena Senate polling: Mary Peltola down 2 in Alaska, Sherrod Brown down 3 in Ohio, Josh Turek down 2 in Iowa, while Graham Plattner leads by 2 in Maine and James Talarico is tied in Texas. Only Roy Cooper in North Carolina shows a clear lead, up 7. Dan calls this a 'painful reality check': these are very Republican states, Trump won all four by at least 11 points, and Republicans still lead the generic ballot by 6+ points even as Trump's approval in those states sits in the low-to-mid 40s. Jon's structural diagnosis is pointed: Democrats have done a good job making people in red states think Trump is a bad president, but have not made people in those states think the Republican senators are the reason Trump has been able to hurt them. The generic ballot — who do you want to control Congress — remains strongly Republican in states where Trump's approval is weak, which means voters are separating their dissatisfaction with Trump from their partisan preference for Senate control. That gap is the political problem Democrats must solve in the next four months.
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Dan zeros in on why Ohio and Iowa are so structurally difficult for Democrats. The voters leaving Trump are disproportionately younger and Latino — groups that are underrepresented in Ohio and Iowa, which are older and whiter than the national average. As Nate Cohn has noted in his poll analysis, many of the voters who have abandoned Trump don't vote in midterms — and Ohio in particular has a highly organized, high-turnout older white non-college electorate that shows up reliably. Jon admits he had hoped a midterm electorate would favor Democrats more than these polls suggest. Dan also points out that Ohio has been registered and organized within an inch of its life for decades — unlike North Carolina, Florida, or Texas, where large unregistered Democratic-leaning populations once offered a path to growth. Sherrod Brown's data, Dan notes, shows him getting almost exactly the same white non-college vote share he got in 2024 against a Trump wave. He simply cannot grow his coalition without either winning some Husted voters or convincing some Brown-to-Moreno switchers to come back — neither of which is easy.
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Jon and Dan briefly pivot to the two states where Democrats have the most structural tailwinds. In North Carolina, Roy Cooper is up 7 with a D+6 generic ballot — a state Trump only narrowly won in 2024 — while running a quiet, high-name-ID campaign that benefits from not attracting national attention or MAGA counter-mobilization. Dan observes that Cooper is actually only barely outrunning the generic ballot, meaning the environment itself is carrying him. In Texas, James Talarico is tied with Ken Paxton despite Texas being a state Trump won by 13 points, partly because Paxton's many personal and legal scandals are dragging down the Republican ticket — a dynamic that mirrors Maine, where candidate quality is affecting results in both directions. Jon argues that North Carolina and Texas are not just this cycle's opportunities but the long-term future for Democratic Senate coalitions, because unlike Ohio and Iowa, they have large and growing populations of young and Latino voters whose political participation is still being unlocked.
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Jon opens with a note on Alaska — Nate Cohn has flagged possible methodological issues with the Alaska sample that could make the numbers look worse for Peltola than they are. Then the conversation turns to what is now the centerpiece of the Democratic Senate strategy: Maine. The new Majority Forward ad attacks Susan Collins for opposing a ban on congressional stock trading, framing it as an insider trading enrichment scheme. Dan is skeptical of the strategy: two-thirds of Maine voters think Collins has good character and morals, making it very hard to make a corruption argument land. Collins has always overperformed — up 23 in 2008 when Obama won Maine by 17, up 9 in 2020 when Biden won Maine by 9 — and she's still popular. What the NYT poll does show is that 57% of independents and a majority of all Maine voters think Collins would be too supportive of Trump. That's the door. Dan argues every ad, every dollar, every message should be a variation of: Collins equals Trump. Plattner, for his part, is running roughly one point ahead of where Sarah Gideon was with white working-class voters, and he's doing considerably better with young voters and men — which is why he's leading where Gideon lost by 9. But he's underperforming the generic ballot by about 9 points, partially because some of the revelations about him have suppressed enthusiasm, and partially because Collins still runs as a genuine exception for many Maine voters. The hosts close noting that both Collins and Plattner are more popular than Democratic Governor Janet Mills, and that the Maine economy being rated negatively by more than 80% of voters would have made Mills a harder candidate than Plattner.
- DSA
- Democratic Socialists of America, a left-wing political organization whose endorsed candidates have been winning progressive primary races against established Democrats.
- Generic ballot
- A poll question asking voters which party they prefer to control Congress, without naming specific candidates; used as a baseline measure of partisan environment.
- Birthright citizenship
- The legal right to citizenship granted to anyone born on US soil, guaranteed by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
- Birth tourism
- The practice of traveling to the United States specifically to give birth so the child receives US citizenship; estimated at under 20,000 cases per year.
- World Liberty Financial
- The Trump family's cryptocurrency venture whose token has dropped over 80% from its peak while generating billions in proceeds for the Trump organization.
- Ponzi scheme
- A fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to earlier investors using money from newer investors rather than legitimate profits; used by the hosts to characterize Trump's crypto operation.
- Pull the rug
- Slang in crypto markets for when creators of a token sell off their holdings and abandon the project, causing the token's value to collapse and harming retail investors.
- Permission structure
- A political communications strategy that gives voters who previously supported a candidate a justification to switch their vote without feeling inconsistent.
- Overperformance
- When a candidate wins by a larger margin than the generic partisan environment in their district or state would predict; Susan Collins is a noted example in Maine.
- Rug pull
- In crypto markets, when project founders suddenly withdraw all liquidity or sell their holdings, leaving investors with worthless tokens.
- Domicile
- Legal term for the place where a person has their primary residence and legal allegiance; used in the Supreme Court birthright citizenship dissent to argue children of foreign nationals shouldn't automatically be US citizens.
- AIPAC
- American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobbying group that has spent heavily in Democratic primaries to support candidates seen as friendly to Israel.
- Frontline race
- A highly competitive congressional race identified by party committees as a top priority for resources, typically in districts where the outcome could determine which party controls the chamber.
- Frenetic
- Characterized by fast, energetic, often disorganized activity; used here to describe the international lobbying surrounding Trump's potential mass pardon.
- Overperformance (electoral)
- A candidate's vote share substantially exceeding what their party's baseline or the top of the ticket achieved in the same geography in the same election.
- Salami-slicing
- Gradually removing small pieces of something over time; used metaphorically by Dan Pfeiffer to describe how Democratic primary candidates must find thin policy differences to debate each other.
- Lame duck
- An officeholder whose term is ending and who therefore has reduced political influence; used by Jon Favreau to argue Trump is not the target Democrats need to beat in the midterms.
- Grift
- Corrupt or fraudulent activity carried out for financial gain; used by the hosts to describe Trump's cryptocurrency scheme and broader monetization of the presidency.
Chapter 4 · 04:30
Trump's America 250 Plans: Fireworks, Heat Speech, and Teddy Roosevelt
Jon Favreau lays out Trump's Fourth of July itinerary: a trip to the Theodore Roosevelt Library for its opening and a fireworks show at Mount Rushmore, followed by a return to DC for what Trump is billing as 'the most spectacular Trump rally of them all,' featuring over 800,000 fireworks in a bid for the Guinness World Record. Trump also announced he intends to give a 'really long speech' in approximately 107-degree heat 'just to show that I can do anything,' pushing fireworks past 11 PM Eastern. The hosts then play a remarkable clip from the Roosevelt Library where Trump delivers a digressive speech invoking the 'racehorse theory' of genetics, praises Teddy's son's bravery, proposes giving Medals of Honor to himself and his two sons — calling it a 'threesome' — and then holds a conversation with an AI hologram of Teddy Roosevelt about the Panama Canal. Jon and Dan react with bemused astonishment, questioning whether Trump understands how AI holograms work and whether he caught the double entendre.
Claims made here
Trump's America 250 celebration in Washington DC is planned to include over 800,000 fireworks in an attempt to set a Guinness World Record.
Trump, speaking at the Theodore Roosevelt Library opening, proposed giving Medals of Honor to himself and his two sons — and called it a 'threesome.' The hosts question whether Trump even understood how an AI hologram of Teddy Roosevelt worked, let alone what he was saying.
Chapter 6 · 13:40
250 Pardons and Trump's $2.2 Billion in Presidential Earnings
Jon pivots to two compounding corruption stories. First, Trump is reportedly weighing a mass pardon of 250 people to mark 250 years — an idea The Atlantic reports has set off a 'frenzy of lobbying and dealmaking.' An adviser says polling supports this, prompting Dan to acidly observe that whoever commissioned that poll was almost certainly a criminal or someone making money off criminals. Dan dismantles the political logic: there is no scenario where a mass pardon of rich or connected people is popular. Then comes the bigger story: Trump's 2025 financial disclosure reveals $2.2 billion in earnings while in office, with $1.4 billion coming from World Liberty Financial, his family's crypto operation. Jon reads from the Times: the coin has collapsed to less than $0.06, an over-80% drop from its peak. Dan argues this isn't ordinary investing — Trump weaponized supporter loyalty, got them to buy a bogus coin, then sold a chunk of the company to an Emirati fund, possibly in exchange for America's most valuable technology. The Wall Street Journal editorial board, Jon notes, compared Trump's foreign dealings unfavorably to Hunter Biden's. Dan concludes the corruption is already priced into Trump's 37% approval rating, but the point is to get that stink onto Republican senators.
Claims made here
Trump's 2025 financial disclosure shows he made at least $2.2 billion while in office, with at least $1.4 billion from his family's cryptocurrency business.
World Liberty Financial's cryptocurrency coin has dropped to less than $0.06, representing a more than 80% decline from its peak.
Trump's national approval rating is at 37%.
Trump's 2025 financial disclosure shows at least $2.2 billion earned while in office, with $1.4 billion from his family's crypto operation. The World Liberty Financial coin has since dropped more than 80% from its peak, wiping out ordinary investors while Trump cashed out.
Trump's 2025 financial disclosure revealed he made at least $2.2 billion last year while serving as president.
At least $1.4 billion of Trump's in-office earnings came from his family's cryptocurrency business, described by the hosts as a Ponzi scheme.
Trump didn't just invest well — he weaponized his supporters' trust, got them to buy a bogus crypto coin, then pulled the rug. He sold a chunk of the company to an Emirati fund, possibly in exchange for selling America's top technology, while his fans absorbed the losses.
World Liberty Financial's cryptocurrency coin fell to less than $0.06, an over 80% drop from its peak, generating massive losses for ordinary investors.
Trump's national approval rating has fallen to 37%, reflecting the political cost of corruption, affordability concerns, and policy failures.
Chapter 7 · 21:20
Sponsor Reads: Quince, AG1
Dan Pfeiffer endorses Quince's European linen shirts and pants as summer essentials, noting personal ownership of Quince sweats, a bag, sheets, and sweaters, with prices 50 to 80% below comparable brands. Jon reads for AG1, a daily health drink combining a multivitamin, pre- and probiotics, superfoods, and antioxidants, describing how he incorporates it into his morning smoothie. Both segments direct listeners to brand URLs with Crooked discount codes.
After the Supreme Court upheld birthright citizenship, MAGA allies proposed denying entry to all pregnant women and requiring sterilization of foreign visitors. Stephen Miller said he was 'looking into' these ideas. Birth tourism accounts for well under 1% of US births.
Chapter 8 · 23:37
Birthright Citizenship Ruling and the MAGA Freakout
The Supreme Court struck down Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment, but the reaction from Trump allies was anything but conciliatory. Jon reads from The Daily Wire's Matt Walsh, who declared America is 'committing suicide,' and from The Federalist's Sean Davis, who floated banning all pregnant foreign women from entering the country and requiring sterilization of foreign visitors. Jon reports that Stephen Miller has said he's 'looking into' these ideas, describing the situation as 'national self-obliteration.' The hosts dissect the political logic: with Trump underwater on every issue except border security, MAGA is trying to drag the conversation back to immigration. But the proposed remedy — targeting pregnant tourists — is grotesque and politically moronic. Jon cites even the Center for Immigration Studies, a far-right group, which puts birth tourism at about 20,000 cases per year out of 3.61 million total US births, well under 1%. Dan draws a direct historical parallel to Reagan's welfare queen myth: take the rarest, most outlandish example and use it to dismantle an entire constitutional right. Jon then walks through the Roberts majority's argument: once you adopt the dissent's logic about 'allegiance,' you could strip citizenship from children of legal permanent residents — and ultimately give Trump and Miller the power to decide who is American.
Claims made here
The Center for Immigration Studies estimates birth tourism at approximately 20,000 cases per year out of 3.61 million US births.
Even the Center for Immigration Studies — a far-right group — puts birth tourism at 20,000 cases a year. Out of 3.61 million US births, that's under 1%. The hosts compare the fearmongering to Reagan's welfare queen myth: take the rarest example and use it to dismantle an entire constitutional right.
Even the far-right Center for Immigration Studies estimates birth tourism at only about 20,000 cases per year out of 3.61 million total US births.
Birth tourism accounts for well under 1% of US births annually, undermining the Republican argument for restricting pregnant foreign visitors.
Chapter 9 · 30:20
Colorado Progressive Primaries: Reading the Anti-Establishment Wave
Tuesday's Colorado primaries delivered a clean sweep for progressives at every level. In the 1st District, 29-year-old DSA candidate Milot Kiros crushed 15-term incumbent Diana DeGette by about 10 points — a result the hosts find entirely legible given the district's Democratic dominance and the anti-establishment wave washing through the party. In the 8th District, progressive state rep Manny Routenell beat a moderate Democrat by 28 points and will now face vulnerable Republican Gabe Evans. And in the governor's race, Attorney General Phil Weiser beat incumbent senator Michael Bennet by 12 points, running on his anti-Trump litigation record. Dan and Jon resist the easy 'progressives vs. moderates' framing, arguing the real driver is voter fury at an establishment perceived as having failed to deliver for working people or adequately fight Trump. Dan notes that the candidates losing aren't necessarily moderates — DeGette was in the Congressional Progressive Caucus — but they were long-established incumbents. Gaza also looms large: Jon argues it functions less as a discrete issue and more as a character test about whether a politician will name what voters are seeing with their own eyes. Bannon, Jon reports, has publicly warned Republicans not to dismiss this wave, comparing it to the early Tea Party — sophisticated anti-establishment campaigning that goes after the opposing party's establishment rather than the president.
Claims made here
Milot Kiros, a 29-year-old DSA candidate, defeated 15-term Democratic incumbent Diana DeGette by approximately 10 points in Colorado's 1st Congressional District.
Phil Weiser defeated Senator Michael Bennet by about 12 points in the Colorado Democratic gubernatorial primary.
Harris won Colorado's 1st Congressional District by more than 50 points in 2024.
29-year-old DSA candidate Milot Kiros crushed 15-term Democratic incumbent Diana DeGette by 10 points in Denver. Dan Pfeiffer argues the real driver isn't ideology but a rage at the Democratic establishment's failure to deliver — and at Gaza. Not being a fighter has become a losing position.
29-year-old DSA candidate Milot Kiros defeated 15-term incumbent Diana DeGette by about 10 points in Colorado's 1st Congressional District primary.
Chapter 10 · 40:00
Kamala Harris's Potential 2028 Run and the Authenticity Challenge
Axios reports that Kamala Harris has been quietly reaching out to progressive leaders — including Zohran Mamdani, AOC, and figures from the Uncommitted Movement — as she weighs a 2028 presidential run. Dan says that six months ago he would have bet against her running, but the accumulating signals suggest she's serious. He argues there is no plausible path to the 2028 nomination that doesn't involve a massive pivot on Gaza and Israel policy, and the outreach to progressive leaders suggests she understands that. But Jon issues a pointed warning: any pivot that looks calculated or focus-grouped will fail. Harris needs to demonstrate genuine, visceral anger — the kind that aides say she felt privately during the 2024 campaign but was never willing to express publicly. She needs to give a Palestinian speaker a slot at the convention, something that seemed crazy not to do in hindsight. She also needs to own personal responsibility for the decisions made, not hide behind the 'I was vice president' defense. More broadly, Jon questions whether Harris has a clear answer to the fundamental question: why does she want to be president? The hosts close by noting that, if historical timing holds, the first Democratic primary debate of 2028 is only about a year away — and the opening skirmishes of what promises to be a brutal intraparty war have already begun.
Steve Bannon publicly warned that Republicans mock progressive anti-establishment candidates at their peril, comparing them to the Tea Party. He sees DSA candidates going after the Democratic establishment the same way Breitbart went after the Republican establishment — and he finds it sophisticated.
Reports indicate Kamala Harris is quietly reaching out to Zohran Mamdani, AOC, and the Uncommitted Movement ahead of a possible 2028 run. Jon Favreau's warning: she cannot focus-group her way to the nomination. She needs genuine, visceral reckoning on Gaza — not a calculated pivot.
Chapter 12 · 51:25
NYT/Siena Senate Polls: Big Picture and the Generic Ballot Problem
Jon walks through the new NYT/Siena Senate polling: Mary Peltola down 2 in Alaska, Sherrod Brown down 3 in Ohio, Josh Turek down 2 in Iowa, while Graham Plattner leads by 2 in Maine and James Talarico is tied in Texas. Only Roy Cooper in North Carolina shows a clear lead, up 7. Dan calls this a 'painful reality check': these are very Republican states, Trump won all four by at least 11 points, and Republicans still lead the generic ballot by 6+ points even as Trump's approval in those states sits in the low-to-mid 40s. Jon's structural diagnosis is pointed: Democrats have done a good job making people in red states think Trump is a bad president, but have not made people in those states think the Republican senators are the reason Trump has been able to hurt them. The generic ballot — who do you want to control Congress — remains strongly Republican in states where Trump's approval is weak, which means voters are separating their dissatisfaction with Trump from their partisan preference for Senate control. That gap is the political problem Democrats must solve in the next four months.
Claims made here
Roy Cooper leads Republican Michael Whatley by 7 points in North Carolina, and the generic congressional ballot in North Carolina is D+6.
In the swing Senate states, 53% of voters say the Democratic Party is too far to the left, 8% say too far to the right, and 35% say neither.
Republicans lead the generic congressional ballot in all key Senate battleground states by at least 6 points.
Trump won the four key red Senate states (Alaska, Iowa, Ohio, Texas) by at least 11 points each.
New NYT/Siena polls show Democrats effectively tied in Alaska, Ohio, Iowa, and Texas Senate races, while Republicans lead the generic ballot by at least 6 points in those states. Trump's approval is bad but not bad enough in the right states — and voters still don't blame Republican senators.
Democrat Roy Cooper leads Republican Michael Whatley by 7 points in North Carolina, the clearest Senate leader among Democrats in any competitive race.
In the red states with key Senate races, 53% of voters say the Democratic Party is too far to the left, versus only 8% who say too far to the right.
The generic congressional ballot in North Carolina is Democrat plus 6, reflecting the state's shift toward Democrats and explaining Roy Cooper's strong position.
Chapter 13 · 57:30
Ohio and Iowa: The White Non-College Voter Problem
Dan zeros in on why Ohio and Iowa are so structurally difficult for Democrats. The voters leaving Trump are disproportionately younger and Latino — groups that are underrepresented in Ohio and Iowa, which are older and whiter than the national average. As Nate Cohn has noted in his poll analysis, many of the voters who have abandoned Trump don't vote in midterms — and Ohio in particular has a highly organized, high-turnout older white non-college electorate that shows up reliably. Jon admits he had hoped a midterm electorate would favor Democrats more than these polls suggest. Dan also points out that Ohio has been registered and organized within an inch of its life for decades — unlike North Carolina, Florida, or Texas, where large unregistered Democratic-leaning populations once offered a path to growth. Sherrod Brown's data, Dan notes, shows him getting almost exactly the same white non-college vote share he got in 2024 against a Trump wave. He simply cannot grow his coalition without either winning some Husted voters or convincing some Brown-to-Moreno switchers to come back — neither of which is easy.
Roy Cooper is up 7 in North Carolina with a D+6 generic ballot — and James Talarico is tied with Ken Paxton in Texas. Both states have growing diverse and young populations that don't exist in Ohio and Iowa, which is why Jon Favreau says Democrats must eventually win these states.
Chapter 14 · 1:01:30
North Carolina, Texas, and the Future Democratic Map
Jon and Dan briefly pivot to the two states where Democrats have the most structural tailwinds. In North Carolina, Roy Cooper is up 7 with a D+6 generic ballot — a state Trump only narrowly won in 2024 — while running a quiet, high-name-ID campaign that benefits from not attracting national attention or MAGA counter-mobilization. Dan observes that Cooper is actually only barely outrunning the generic ballot, meaning the environment itself is carrying him. In Texas, James Talarico is tied with Ken Paxton despite Texas being a state Trump won by 13 points, partly because Paxton's many personal and legal scandals are dragging down the Republican ticket — a dynamic that mirrors Maine, where candidate quality is affecting results in both directions. Jon argues that North Carolina and Texas are not just this cycle's opportunities but the long-term future for Democratic Senate coalitions, because unlike Ohio and Iowa, they have large and growing populations of young and Latino voters whose political participation is still being unlocked.
Claims made here
Sherrod Brown has a +8 favorable rating in Ohio but is down 3 points in the Senate race against Jon Husted.
Sherrod Brown has a +8 favorable rating in a state Trump won by 11. Yet he's down 3 in the polls — and getting almost exactly the same share of white non-college voters he got in 2024. The voters who are leaving Trump simply don't vote in midterms in Ohio.
Sherrod Brown has a +8 favorable rating in Ohio, a Trump state that Trump won by 11 points, yet he is still down 3 points in the Senate race.
Chapter 16 · 1:05:36
Alaska and the Maine Deep-Dive: Polling, Strategy, and Attack Ads
Jon opens with a note on Alaska — Nate Cohn has flagged possible methodological issues with the Alaska sample that could make the numbers look worse for Peltola than they are. Then the conversation turns to what is now the centerpiece of the Democratic Senate strategy: Maine. The new Majority Forward ad attacks Susan Collins for opposing a ban on congressional stock trading, framing it as an insider trading enrichment scheme. Dan is skeptical of the strategy: two-thirds of Maine voters think Collins has good character and morals, making it very hard to make a corruption argument land. Collins has always overperformed — up 23 in 2008 when Obama won Maine by 17, up 9 in 2020 when Biden won Maine by 9 — and she's still popular. What the NYT poll does show is that 57% of independents and a majority of all Maine voters think Collins would be too supportive of Trump. That's the door. Dan argues every ad, every dollar, every message should be a variation of: Collins equals Trump. Plattner, for his part, is running roughly one point ahead of where Sarah Gideon was with white working-class voters, and he's doing considerably better with young voters and men — which is why he's leading where Gideon lost by 9. But he's underperforming the generic ballot by about 9 points, partially because some of the revelations about him have suppressed enthusiasm, and partially because Collins still runs as a genuine exception for many Maine voters. The hosts close noting that both Collins and Plattner are more popular than Democratic Governor Janet Mills, and that the Maine economy being rated negatively by more than 80% of voters would have made Mills a harder candidate than Plattner.
Claims made here
Susan Collins won Maine by 9 points in 2020 when Biden was also winning Maine by nearly 9 points — an ~18-point overperformance.
In 2008, Susan Collins won Maine by 23 points while Obama was winning Maine by 17 points — a 40-point overperformance.
Two-thirds of Maine voters think Susan Collins has good character and morals.
Nearly 9 in 10 Maine voters have heard about Graham Plattner's controversies, compared to only 38% of Texas voters who have heard about Ken Paxton's problems.
The Texas Republican Senate primary was the most expensive primary in history, with John Cornyn and his super PACs spending ungodly amounts telling voters about Ken Paxton's corruption.
In Maine, more than 8 in 10 voters think the Maine economy is bad.
The Majority Forward PAC is running an insider trading ad against Collins — but two-thirds of Maine voters think she has good character and morals. The smarter play: tie every Collins vote to Trump and the threat of another Trump Supreme Court justice. Don't overthink it.
Susan Collins won Maine by 9 points in 2020 even as Biden was winning Maine by nearly 9 points — an 18-point overperformance.
In 2008, Susan Collins won Maine by 23 points when Obama won Maine by 17 — a 40-point overperformance illustrating her extraordinary home-state durability.
Nearly 9 in 10 Maine voters have heard about the revelations surrounding Democratic Senate candidate Graham Plattner, a stark contrast to Texas where only 38% heard about Paxton's problems.
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Central subject of episode; discussed for America 250 events, $2.2B financial disclosure, crypto scheme, and birthright citizenship executive order.
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Maine Republican senator in a competitive 2026 race against Democrat Graham Plattner; discussed for her historically strong overperformance and insider trading allegations.
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Democratic Senate candidate in Maine running against Susan Collins; discussed for poll numbers, revelations hurting his campaign, and messaging strategy.
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Former Ohio senator now running again for his seat against Republican Jon Husted; discussed for his +8 favorability and structural challenge with white non-college voters.
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Former vice president reportedly quietly reaching out to progressive leaders including Zohran Mamdani and AOC ahead of a potential 2028 presidential run.
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Former North Carolina governor running for Senate in 2026; leads Republican Michael Whatley by 7 points in the NYT/Siena poll.
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Trump's top immigration adviser, discussed for his extreme reaction to birthright citizenship ruling and proposals to ban pregnant tourists.
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29-year-old DSA candidate who defeated 15-term Democratic incumbent Diana DeGette by 10 points in Colorado's 1st Congressional District primary.
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15-term Democratic incumbent in Colorado's 1st Congressional District who was defeated by progressive challenger Milot Kiros in the 2026 primary.
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Texas Republican Senate candidate whose legal problems are hurting him in polls against Democrat James Talarico, despite most voters not having heard about them.
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Colorado Attorney General who defeated Senator Michael Bennet by 12 points in the Colorado Democratic gubernatorial primary.
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Subject of the presidential library opening where Trump spoke; Trump interacted with an AI hologram of Roosevelt and invoked the 'racehorse theory' of genetics.
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, referenced for endorsing Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan and as someone Kamala Harris is reportedly reaching out to ahead of 2028.
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Democratic Senate candidate in Texas currently tied with Republican Ken Paxton in the NYT/Siena poll.
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Colorado senator who lost the state's Democratic gubernatorial primary by 12 points to Attorney General Phil Weiser.
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Former Trump strategist who publicly warned Republicans not to dismiss progressive anti-establishment primary wins, comparing them to the Tea Party.
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Publisher of the NYT/Siena Senate polls extensively analyzed by the hosts, and of reporting on Trump's crypto scheme and financial disclosure.
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Murdoch-owned publication whose editorial board criticized Trump's corruption, comparing it to Hunter Biden's foreign dealings and warning of political costs.
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Trump family cryptocurrency venture whose token dropped over 80% from peak while generating over $1.4 billion for Trump.
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AI company that reportedly offered the US government a 5% stake, prompting discussion about government equity stakes in AI firms.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
Trump's 2025 financial disclosure shows he made at least $2.2 billion while in office, with at least $1.4 billion from his family's cryptocurrency business.
World Liberty Financial's cryptocurrency coin has dropped to less than $0.06, representing a more than 80% decline from its peak.
The Center for Immigration Studies estimates birth tourism at approximately 20,000 cases per year out of 3.61 million US births.
Trump's national approval rating is at 37%.
In the swing Senate states, 53% of voters say the Democratic Party is too far to the left, 8% say too far to the right, and 35% say neither.
Republicans lead the generic congressional ballot in all key Senate battleground states by at least 6 points.
Roy Cooper leads Republican Michael Whatley by 7 points in North Carolina, and the generic congressional ballot in North Carolina is D+6.
Susan Collins won Maine by 9 points in 2020 when Biden was also winning Maine by nearly 9 points — an ~18-point overperformance.
In 2008, Susan Collins won Maine by 23 points while Obama was winning Maine by 17 points — a 40-point overperformance.
Nearly 9 in 10 Maine voters have heard about Graham Plattner's controversies, compared to only 38% of Texas voters who have heard about Ken Paxton's problems.
Two-thirds of Maine voters think Susan Collins has good character and morals.
Milot Kiros, a 29-year-old DSA candidate, defeated 15-term Democratic incumbent Diana DeGette by approximately 10 points in Colorado's 1st Congressional District.
Phil Weiser defeated Senator Michael Bennet by about 12 points in the Colorado Democratic gubernatorial primary.
Sherrod Brown has a +8 favorable rating in Ohio but is down 3 points in the Senate race against Jon Husted.
Trump won the four key red Senate states (Alaska, Iowa, Ohio, Texas) by at least 11 points each.
OpenAI offered the US government a 5% stake in the company.
The Texas Republican Senate primary was the most expensive primary in history, with John Cornyn and his super PACs spending ungodly amounts telling voters about Ken Paxton's corruption.
Harris won Colorado's 1st Congressional District by more than 50 points in 2024.
A Fox News poll shows Plattner down 3 to Susan Collins and Turek up 4 on Hinson in Iowa.
In Maine, more than 8 in 10 voters think the Maine economy is bad.