Claudia returned from a 3-day Dallas wedding and was so emotionally overwhelmed she could barely hold it together. The traditions — Sheva Brachot, the chuppah, Holocaust survivors mentioned under the canopy — hit differently when you're postpartum.
Taylor Swift may have already filed street-closure permits around Madison Square Garden for a July 3rd wedding — shutting down 8 blocks near Penn Station in the biggest city in the world.
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Taylor Swift may have already filed street-closure permits around Madison Square Garden for a July 3rd wedding — shutting down 8 blocks near Penn Station in the biggest city in the world.
TL;DR
Jackie and Claudia Oshry reunite after Claudia's Dallas wedding weekend to work through a packed Tuesday show. They cover Amanda Batula's exit from Summer House after 10 seasons amid the #Scamanda fallout [1] — Claudia Oshry "Amanda Batula is out of Summer House after 10 seasons, with several new cast members also reportedly not returning. The hosts worry the sho…" 20:31 , speculate on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's imminent MSG wedding with street closures filed for July 3rd [2] — Jackie Oshry "NYC permit filings show 8 blocks around Madison Square Garden closed for July 3rd — a move never made before except for NBA championships. …" 28:46 , and react to Layla Taylor coming out as bisexual on Jay Shetty. A deep Love Island USA dive dissects Kenzie's kiss with Gaul, Sincere's duplicity, and Parmida's likely removal. The key takeaway: get your hair fixed — and set healthy boundaries with in-laws who give 4-year-olds bobs.
Jackie and Claudia cover Amanda Batula leaving Summer House after 10 seasons, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce wedding speculation, Layla Taylor coming out as bisexual, Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi in Brisbane, Love Island USA's Tierra Davis controversy, and Dear Toasters advice.
The episode opens with The Toast's familiar jingle, with the hosts introducing themselves and setting up the promise of the Fast Five — five stories to start your morning. It's a brief, energetic cold open that signals the upbeat, girlfriends-catching-up tone the show runs on.
Claudia has been away for just one episode but it feels like forever — and she's coming back emotionally wrung out from a beautiful Jewish wedding in Dallas that was originally meant to take place in Israel. As a postpartum mother still processing everything, she found the Sheva Brachot, the chuppah speeches, and even the obligatory Holocaust survivor mention under the canopy completely overwhelming. Jackie, always the crier at weddings herself, relates fully: there is something about the weight of traditions that have survived generations that hits differently when you're a new mother. The tangent pivots warmly to the fact that Claudia was seated at a table of all Toasters, turning the reception into an impromptu fan meet-and-greet of swirly proportions.
A fun listener question posed the previous day gets revisited: which Wicked character has the most swirlitude? Jackie's husband Ben went with the obvious choice, Glinda, based purely on pink aesthetics — but Jackie countered that swirlitude is a state of mind, not a color palette, and that no character at the University of Shiz actually has it. Claudia resolved the debate elegantly: both Glinda and Elphaba are Toasters, which is the secret engine of their friendship. From there, the hosts tee up their Love Island recap with mounting frustration — particularly about a Megan Thee Stallion challenge that Jackie watched in the background during a mahjong night, praying it wouldn't veer into the cake-throwing segment in front of her non-viewer friends.
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Claudia breaks the news from Variety: Amanda Batula will not return for Summer House Season 11. [1] — Claudia Oshry "Amanda Batula is out of Summer House after 10 seasons, with several new cast members also reportedly not returning. The hosts worry the sho…" 20:31 Several of the new cast additions, including KJ and Dara, are also apparently not coming back, while Sierra and Lindsay remain in some capacity and Kyle stays on. Jackie draws an immediate parallel to Vanderpump Rules post-Scandoval — a show that got a massive national platform, then seemingly removed the very elements driving its popularity. The hosts lament the absence of Amanda and Wes, who they'd actually like to watch deal with the fallout, and Jackie flags that the new cast introduced to her sounded 'boring as hell.' There's also sympathy for Jesse, whose friendship with Wes has been damaged more severely than the public realizes, with Claudia noting that without the shared filming framework, that friendship is effectively over.
Sierra was riding a wave of post-Scamanda momentum — campaigns, reunion buzz, and real cultural cachet — and then she took the Love Island After Sun hosting gig in Fiji and has been effectively off the map for two months. Jackie lays out the case against the decision: the show gets hate regardless of host performance, the fan base is 'mentally ill,' Sierra and Tefi appear to be bickering on camera, and she's missed the entire first month of Summer House. The one counterpoint: it's a massive platform and she couldn't have known all this in advance. Claudia offers the optimistic take — just wait for Dancing with the Stars. But Jackie's concern is that wind behind a personality is a rare and perishable thing.
The Page Six story drops with two cryptic social posts: one from Rishi, widely rumored to be Taylor Swift's wedding planner, marveling that 23 colleagues unanimously said they never imagined being part of 'what we created today.' [1] — Claudia Oshry "Taylor Swift wedding planner's cryptic post: Rumored Taylor Swift wedding planner Rishi posted on Instagram about an event he helped create…" 28:46 Another comes from a social media strategist who posted about a career highlight evening in New York. Jackie immediately applies her filter: no real contracted Taylor Swift vendor is posting Instagram stories the same night — NDAs would prevent it. She's more interested in what's happening offline: trucks being loaded near Madison Square Garden, and NYC Department permit filings showing 8 blocks of streets around MSG — near Penn Station — closed for July 3rd. [2] — Jackie Oshry "NYC permit filings show 8 blocks around Madison Square Garden closed for July 3rd — a move never made before except for NBA championships. …" 28:46 The scale of the closure, she notes, has only ever been done before for the NBA championships. This is not a wedding, it's a civic event.
Layla Taylor sat down with Jay Shetty to say the words publicly for the first time: she's bisexual, she dates both women and men, and she's currently seeing someone new — a woman who initiated contact simply by liking one of her Instagram posts. [1] — Claudia Oshry "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives' Layla Taylor came out as bisexual and revealed she's currently dating a woman who slid into her DMs via an In…" 34:06 Layla described the woman as 'emotionally aware and very patient,' allowing her to process something still 'foreign and new' at her own pace. Jackie finds herself a little unmoved by Layla as a cast member — she's never quite broken through on the show — but both hosts acknowledge this could be exactly why: she's been holding herself back. The conversation pivots into genuine appreciation for Jay Shetty's brand, which has elevated from wellness podcast to celebrity destination, with Claudia suggesting Jackie should consider going on. Jackie declines, firmly — emotional deep dives aren't her format.
A quick aside covers Taylor Frankie Paul: her ex Dakota called police citing concerns about a protective order and custody drop-off hours, with the matter referred to the DA's office. The hosts read it as a very bad headline for what is probably a mundane dispute about timing. Then to the main story: Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi were photographed at Brisbane Airport — Jacob's hometown — wearing full disguises that fooled nobody, because they are both giants. [1] — Jackie Oshry "Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi tried masks, scarves, hoods, and hats at Brisbane Airport — and still got spotted. Jackie's take: they're b…" 39:18 Jackie marvels at Jacob Elordi's trajectory (Kissing Booth co-star, to Olivia Jade, to Kendall Jenner) but admits the pairing inspires zero heart-rate response. The segment closes with Jackie's best disclosure of the week: Kylie Jenner's former assistant Victoria appeared on a podcast and revealed that Dua Lipa and Callum Turner's famous 'on the same page' book meet-cute happened while Callum was on a date with Victoria. They got married anyway — but the myth is now half-dismantled.
The ad break features two entertainment properties. First, Heads Will Roll: Heir Apparent on Audible — Kate McKinnon returns as Queen Mortuana with a star-studded ensemble including Jimmy Fallon, Laurie Metcalf, Megan Mullally, and Carrie Coon, in a medieval comedy about producing an heir before turning 40 or being condemned to eternal menstruary duty. Second, Ride or Die on Prime Video — Hannah Waddingham and Octavia Spencer play lifelong best friends whose lives are upended when one is revealed to be a secret international assassin; premieres July 15th.
Claudia reads the TMZ report in full: in 2018, 16-year-old Shayla Woodard filed a restraining order against then-17-year-old Tierra Davis, claiming Davis threatened to shoot her after a physical assault rooted in jealousy over a shared ex-boyfriend. [1] — Claudia Oshry "TMZ obtained a 2018 restraining order showing Love Island USA fan favorite Tierra Davis allegedly threatened to shoot a 16-year-old girl ov…" 46:15 A temporary restraining order was granted, but the case was later dismissed. The hosts note a critical distinction from typical Love Island social media controversy: private Snapchat messages or disappearing stories could never be found by production, but a court filing absolutely would show up in a background check. They conclude the show knew and cast her anyway — which, Jackie points out, makes sense, because Love Island wants someone who will 'fight for their man.' The segment slides into a broader discussion of Parmida's N-word DM and the expectation that she'll be removed from the villa.
This is the longest and most passionate segment of the episode, and it covers the entire Casa Amor aftermath. Kenzie kissed Gaul — despite being in a solid connection with Dylan and despite Gaul having been unkind to her only friend Jen — and both hosts are done with her. [1] — Claudia Oshry "Kenzie kissed Gaul — her only friend Jen's would-be partner — despite being in a solid connection with Dylan. The hosts see it as the momen…" 50:55 They catalogue her string of explored connections (Sean, Zach, Gabe, Caleb, Corbin, Dylan, now Gaul) and conclude she simply cannot commit. Sincere gets the sharpest critique: he had what amounted to a full relationship in Casa Amor, came back to Melanie, still delivers self-righteous life-coach apologies, and the TikTok recap account has started calling him 'Sinister.' Melanie has been so broken down that she now looks physically ill whenever the camera cuts to her face. Zach and Kaida get flagged as using other people as jealousy pawns — immature and toxic in a quieter way than Sincere. Anaya's decision not to choose Carl when he came back is called the episode's biggest L, and the hosts discuss whether production will address Alana's removal or simply paper over it to avoid breaking the fourth wall. The only person anyone can give credit to is Casey, who at least behaved consistently: he didn't like Anaya enough, he met someone in Casa, and he brought her back.
The Dear Toasters segment opens with a satisfying callback: a listener who wrote in the previous year about her husband gifting an umbrella and meat thermometer for her 29th birthday followed the hosts' advice to simply tell her husband what she wanted — and received a diamond necklace for her 30th. [1] — Jackie Oshry "Dear Toaster update: ugly hair → diamond necklace: A listener who wrote in last year about receiving an umbrella and meat thermometer for h…" 1:03:25 Jackie uses it as a lesson in direct communication: you can't fault someone for not being a mind reader. Then comes the new letter: a postpartum listener let her sister-in-law — a new hairstylist — do a full head of blonde highlights that came out horrible. She's afraid to fix them because the sister-in-law is so sensitive. Both hosts are immediate and unanimous: get your hair fixed. You are not required to walk around looking bad to protect someone else's feelings. Jackie adds the silver lining: by getting it fixed, you're actually helping your sister-in-law become a better hairstylist.
The second Dear Toasters letter is the episode's funniest and most outrage-inducing. A listener's mother-in-law overheard that the 4-year-old daughter needed a trim before appearing as a flower girl in two summer weddings. She took the child out alone and returned with a full bob and bangs on a child who had never had a haircut in her life. [1] — Jackie Oshry "A mother-in-law took a 4-year-old who had never had a haircut and returned her with a full bob and bangs, citing a comment about needing a …" 1:06:25 The mother-in-law's defense: the 4-year-old said she wanted bangs. Jackie's response is withering: how stupid are you? Claudia's verdict is crisp and enforceable: this woman does not get to take the child alone again until the hair grows back. In that interim period, she should think about what she did. The hosts acknowledge the daughter is probably adorable — hair grows fast — but the boundary violation here is serious enough to require a loud, unambiguous response to prevent escalation.
The final Dear Toasters letter comes from a married mother who describes her husband's weekly remote sexting ritual — a callback to their college long-distance days — as something she finds exhausting and slightly bizarre given that they live together. She falls asleep putting the kids to bed half the time. [1] — Claudia Oshry "A listener's husband wants to recreate their college long-distance sexting ritual every single week. Claudia's solution: train an AI chatbo…" 1:08:38 Jackie's take: once a week is a lot, and the novelty of this kind of thing requires rarity to remain special. Claudia, in her most inspired advice of the episode, suggests deploying an AI chatbot trained on the listener's previous messages — let it run in the background, go to sleep, problem solved. The environmental impact of AI energy usage is cheerfully waived: the polar bears would have wanted this. The hosts close by suggesting the husband would probably enjoy the AI's output so much he'd start demanding it nightly, at which point the joke completes itself.
Jackie closes the last episode before a long holiday weekend by directing listeners to The Toast Patreon — $7.99 a month for five bonus episodes, access to 500+ archived vlogs, and a community that is, per Claudia, currently buzzing about the Dear Toasters Time Capsule Patreon episode. A new Patreon episode is being recorded immediately after. Jackie runs through all the podcast platforms and asks for five-star reviews before she and Claudia sign off with matching Fourth of July energy, including one final reprise of 'God Bless the USA.'
Chapter 2 · 00:23
Claudia has been away for just one episode but it feels like forever — and she's coming back emotionally wrung out from a beautiful Jewish wedding in Dallas that was originally meant to take place in Israel. As a postpartum mother still processing everything, she found the Sheva Brachot, the chuppah speeches, and even the obligatory Holocaust survivor mention under the canopy completely overwhelming. Jackie, always the crier at weddings herself, relates fully: there is something about the weight of traditions that have survived generations that hits differently when you're a new mother. The tangent pivots warmly to the fact that Claudia was seated at a table of all Toasters, turning the reception into an impromptu fan meet-and-greet of swirly proportions.
Claudia returned from a 3-day Dallas wedding and was so emotionally overwhelmed she could barely hold it together. The traditions — Sheva Brachot, the chuppah, Holocaust survivors mentioned under the canopy — hit differently when you're postpartum.
Jackie posited that not a single character at the University of Shiz possesses true swirlitude. Claudia countered: both Glinda and Elphaba are Toasters, and that shared quality is the secret engine of their friendship.
Chapter 3 · 07:03
A fun listener question posed the previous day gets revisited: which Wicked character has the most swirlitude? Jackie's husband Ben went with the obvious choice, Glinda, based purely on pink aesthetics — but Jackie countered that swirlitude is a state of mind, not a color palette, and that no character at the University of Shiz actually has it. Claudia resolved the debate elegantly: both Glinda and Elphaba are Toasters, which is the secret engine of their friendship. From there, the hosts tee up their Love Island recap with mounting frustration — particularly about a Megan Thee Stallion challenge that Jackie watched in the background during a mahjong night, praying it wouldn't veer into the cake-throwing segment in front of her non-viewer friends.
Love Island USA has become an accidental window into how young men behave in relationships right now. They don't just act badly — they weaponize emotional language to make it seem like they're not. Claudia says they used to just be fuckboys. Now they act like therapists.
Chapter 5 · 20:13
Claudia breaks the news from Variety: Amanda Batula will not return for Summer House Season 11. [1] — Claudia Oshry "Amanda Batula is out of Summer House after 10 seasons, with several new cast members also reportedly not returning. The hosts worry the sho…" 20:31 Several of the new cast additions, including KJ and Dara, are also apparently not coming back, while Sierra and Lindsay remain in some capacity and Kyle stays on. Jackie draws an immediate parallel to Vanderpump Rules post-Scandoval — a show that got a massive national platform, then seemingly removed the very elements driving its popularity. The hosts lament the absence of Amanda and Wes, who they'd actually like to watch deal with the fallout, and Jackie flags that the new cast introduced to her sounded 'boring as hell.' There's also sympathy for Jesse, whose friendship with Wes has been damaged more severely than the public realizes, with Claudia noting that without the shared filming framework, that friendship is effectively over.
Claims made here
Amanda Batula will not return for Season 11 of Summer House, according to Variety.
Amanda Batula is out of Summer House after 10 seasons, with several new cast members also reportedly not returning. The hosts worry the show is heading the same direction as post-Scandoval Vanderpump Rules: all the interesting parts cut out.
Amanda Batula will not return for Summer House Season 11 following the #Scamanda controversy, per Variety.
Chapter 6 · 25:03
Sierra was riding a wave of post-Scamanda momentum — campaigns, reunion buzz, and real cultural cachet — and then she took the Love Island After Sun hosting gig in Fiji and has been effectively off the map for two months. Jackie lays out the case against the decision: the show gets hate regardless of host performance, the fan base is 'mentally ill,' Sierra and Tefi appear to be bickering on camera, and she's missed the entire first month of Summer House. The one counterpoint: it's a massive platform and she couldn't have known all this in advance. Claudia offers the optimistic take — just wait for Dancing with the Stars. But Jackie's concern is that wind behind a personality is a rare and perishable thing.
Sierra took the Love Island After Sun hosting gig in Fiji and has been away for two months during what was peak post-Summer House momentum. Death threats, infighting with co-host Tefi, and being absent from campaigns leads Jackie to wonder if it was the wrong call.
Chapter 7 · 28:44
The Page Six story drops with two cryptic social posts: one from Rishi, widely rumored to be Taylor Swift's wedding planner, marveling that 23 colleagues unanimously said they never imagined being part of 'what we created today.' [1] — Claudia Oshry "Taylor Swift wedding planner's cryptic post: Rumored Taylor Swift wedding planner Rishi posted on Instagram about an event he helped create…" 28:46 Another comes from a social media strategist who posted about a career highlight evening in New York. Jackie immediately applies her filter: no real contracted Taylor Swift vendor is posting Instagram stories the same night — NDAs would prevent it. She's more interested in what's happening offline: trucks being loaded near Madison Square Garden, and NYC Department permit filings showing 8 blocks of streets around MSG — near Penn Station — closed for July 3rd. [2] — Jackie Oshry "NYC permit filings show 8 blocks around Madison Square Garden closed for July 3rd — a move never made before except for NBA championships. …" 28:46 The scale of the closure, she notes, has only ever been done before for the NBA championships. This is not a wedding, it's a civic event.
Claims made here
Rishi, rumored to be Taylor Swift's wedding planner, posted on Instagram that he asked 23 colleagues if they imagined being part of 'what we created today,' with all unanimously saying no.
NYC street closures were first done for the NBA championships and have never been done for a private event at the scale reportedly planned around MSG for July 3rd.
Street closure permits were filed with the New York City Department for approximately 8 blocks around Madison Square Garden for July 3rd, similar to closures made for NBA championships.
NYC permit filings show 8 blocks around Madison Square Garden closed for July 3rd — a move never made before except for NBA championships. Combined with a cryptic post from a rumored wedding planner, the hosts are convinced something massive is happening.
Rumored Taylor Swift wedding planner Rishi posted on Instagram about an event he helped create, saying 23 of his colleagues agreed they never imagined being part of something like it.
Street closure permits near Madison Square Garden covering approximately 8 blocks were filed with the NYC Department for July 3rd, fueling Taylor Swift wedding speculation.
Chapter 8 · 34:06
Layla Taylor sat down with Jay Shetty to say the words publicly for the first time: she's bisexual, she dates both women and men, and she's currently seeing someone new — a woman who initiated contact simply by liking one of her Instagram posts. [1] — Claudia Oshry "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives' Layla Taylor came out as bisexual and revealed she's currently dating a woman who slid into her DMs via an In…" 34:06 Layla described the woman as 'emotionally aware and very patient,' allowing her to process something still 'foreign and new' at her own pace. Jackie finds herself a little unmoved by Layla as a cast member — she's never quite broken through on the show — but both hosts acknowledge this could be exactly why: she's been holding herself back. The conversation pivots into genuine appreciation for Jay Shetty's brand, which has elevated from wellness podcast to celebrity destination, with Claudia suggesting Jackie should consider going on. Jackie declines, firmly — emotional deep dives aren't her format.
Claims made here
Layla Taylor said on Jay Shetty's podcast that she is bisexual and is currently dating a woman who first contacted her by liking an Instagram photo.
Taylor Frankie Paul's ex-partner Dakota called police on Taylor regarding drop-off and custody of their child and concerns about a protective order, according to TMZ.
Secret Lives of Mormon Wives' Layla Taylor came out as bisexual and revealed she's currently dating a woman who slid into her DMs via an Instagram like. The hosts see this as a potential explanation for why she's seemed held back on the show.
Secret Lives of Mormon Wives star Layla Taylor publicly came out as bisexual on Jay Shetty's podcast, revealing she is currently dating a woman.
Chapter 9 · 38:55
A quick aside covers Taylor Frankie Paul: her ex Dakota called police citing concerns about a protective order and custody drop-off hours, with the matter referred to the DA's office. The hosts read it as a very bad headline for what is probably a mundane dispute about timing. Then to the main story: Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi were photographed at Brisbane Airport — Jacob's hometown — wearing full disguises that fooled nobody, because they are both giants. [1] — Jackie Oshry "Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi tried masks, scarves, hoods, and hats at Brisbane Airport — and still got spotted. Jackie's take: they're b…" 39:18 Jackie marvels at Jacob Elordi's trajectory (Kissing Booth co-star, to Olivia Jade, to Kendall Jenner) but admits the pairing inspires zero heart-rate response. The segment closes with Jackie's best disclosure of the week: Kylie Jenner's former assistant Victoria appeared on a podcast and revealed that Dua Lipa and Callum Turner's famous 'on the same page' book meet-cute happened while Callum was on a date with Victoria. They got married anyway — but the myth is now half-dismantled.
Claims made here
Kylie Jenner's former assistant Victoria claimed on a podcast that Dua Lipa met Callum Turner at a restaurant when he was on a date with Victoria, undermining the couple's famous book meet-cute story.
Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi tried masks, scarves, hoods, and hats at Brisbane Airport — and still got spotted. Jackie's take: they're both giants, and also, just wave. You're beautiful and in love.
Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi were photographed at Brisbane Airport in Australia wearing COVID masks, scarves, hoods, and hats in an attempt to go unnoticed.
Dua Lipa and Callum Turner's famous 'on the same page' book meet cute? He was apparently on a date with someone else when it happened. Kylie Jenner's former assistant Victoria spilled the story on a podcast.
Chapter 10 · 44:00
The ad break features two entertainment properties. First, Heads Will Roll: Heir Apparent on Audible — Kate McKinnon returns as Queen Mortuana with a star-studded ensemble including Jimmy Fallon, Laurie Metcalf, Megan Mullally, and Carrie Coon, in a medieval comedy about producing an heir before turning 40 or being condemned to eternal menstruary duty. Second, Ride or Die on Prime Video — Hannah Waddingham and Octavia Spencer play lifelong best friends whose lives are upended when one is revealed to be a secret international assassin; premieres July 15th.
TMZ obtained a 2018 restraining order showing Love Island USA fan favorite Tierra Davis allegedly threatened to shoot a 16-year-old girl over a boyfriend. The hosts say this would've shown up in any background check — meaning production chose to overlook it.
Chapter 11 · 46:19
Claudia reads the TMZ report in full: in 2018, 16-year-old Shayla Woodard filed a restraining order against then-17-year-old Tierra Davis, claiming Davis threatened to shoot her after a physical assault rooted in jealousy over a shared ex-boyfriend. [1] — Claudia Oshry "TMZ obtained a 2018 restraining order showing Love Island USA fan favorite Tierra Davis allegedly threatened to shoot a 16-year-old girl ov…" 46:15 A temporary restraining order was granted, but the case was later dismissed. The hosts note a critical distinction from typical Love Island social media controversy: private Snapchat messages or disappearing stories could never be found by production, but a court filing absolutely would show up in a background check. They conclude the show knew and cast her anyway — which, Jackie points out, makes sense, because Love Island wants someone who will 'fight for their man.' The segment slides into a broader discussion of Parmida's N-word DM and the expectation that she'll be removed from the villa.
Claims made here
TMZ obtained a 2018 restraining order filed by 16-year-old Shayla Woodard alleging that then-17-year-old Tierra Davis threatened to shoot her after physically assaulting her over a boyfriend dispute.
The temporary restraining order against Tierra Davis was granted but the case was later dismissed in December 2018.
Love Island USA's Parmida had a slip involving the N-word in a direct message, which the hosts say is worse than singing along to a song.
A 2018 restraining order obtained by TMZ alleges that then-17-year-old Love Island USA contestant Tierra Davis threatened to shoot a 16-year-old girl over a boyfriend dispute.
Claudia argued that Love Island's production team could never have found private Snapchat messages or disappearing stories, but a court-filed restraining order would surface in a routine background check.
Chapter 12 · 49:44
This is the longest and most passionate segment of the episode, and it covers the entire Casa Amor aftermath. Kenzie kissed Gaul — despite being in a solid connection with Dylan and despite Gaul having been unkind to her only friend Jen — and both hosts are done with her. [1] — Claudia Oshry "Kenzie kissed Gaul — her only friend Jen's would-be partner — despite being in a solid connection with Dylan. The hosts see it as the momen…" 50:55 They catalogue her string of explored connections (Sean, Zach, Gabe, Caleb, Corbin, Dylan, now Gaul) and conclude she simply cannot commit. Sincere gets the sharpest critique: he had what amounted to a full relationship in Casa Amor, came back to Melanie, still delivers self-righteous life-coach apologies, and the TikTok recap account has started calling him 'Sinister.' Melanie has been so broken down that she now looks physically ill whenever the camera cuts to her face. Zach and Kaida get flagged as using other people as jealousy pawns — immature and toxic in a quieter way than Sincere. Anaya's decision not to choose Carl when he came back is called the episode's biggest L, and the hosts discuss whether production will address Alana's removal or simply paper over it to avoid breaking the fourth wall. The only person anyone can give credit to is Casey, who at least behaved consistently: he didn't like Anaya enough, he met someone in Casa, and he brought her back.
Kenzie kissed Gaul — her only friend Jen's would-be partner — despite being in a solid connection with Dylan. The hosts see it as the moment Kenzie burned her last bridge in the villa and proved she can't maintain female friendships.
Love Island USA's Kenzie kissed contestant Gaul while in an established connection with Dylan, prompting both hosts to lose sympathy for her.
Sincere isn't just a bad boyfriend — he thinks he's righteous about it. He had a full girlfriend in Casa Amor, came back to Melanie, and still delivers life-coach apologies. The hosts are exhausted.
Love Island USA's Sincere had what the hosts describe as an actual girlfriend in Casa Amor, with the relationship only revealed when his Casa girl returned.
Chapter 13 · 1:03:25
The Dear Toasters segment opens with a satisfying callback: a listener who wrote in the previous year about her husband gifting an umbrella and meat thermometer for her 29th birthday followed the hosts' advice to simply tell her husband what she wanted — and received a diamond necklace for her 30th. [1] — Jackie Oshry "Dear Toaster update: ugly hair → diamond necklace: A listener who wrote in last year about receiving an umbrella and meat thermometer for h…" 1:03:25 Jackie uses it as a lesson in direct communication: you can't fault someone for not being a mind reader. Then comes the new letter: a postpartum listener let her sister-in-law — a new hairstylist — do a full head of blonde highlights that came out horrible. She's afraid to fix them because the sister-in-law is so sensitive. Both hosts are immediate and unanimous: get your hair fixed. You are not required to walk around looking bad to protect someone else's feelings. Jackie adds the silver lining: by getting it fixed, you're actually helping your sister-in-law become a better hairstylist.
A listener who wrote in last year about receiving an umbrella and meat thermometer for her 29th birthday followed the hosts' advice to give her husband a list; he surprised her with a diamond necklace for her 30th.
A postpartum listener let her sister-in-law hairstylist botch her highlights and is afraid to fix them. The hosts' verdict is unanimous and immediate: get your hair fixed. You are not required to walk around ugly to protect someone's feelings.
Chapter 14 · 1:06:25
The second Dear Toasters letter is the episode's funniest and most outrage-inducing. A listener's mother-in-law overheard that the 4-year-old daughter needed a trim before appearing as a flower girl in two summer weddings. She took the child out alone and returned with a full bob and bangs on a child who had never had a haircut in her life. [1] — Jackie Oshry "A mother-in-law took a 4-year-old who had never had a haircut and returned her with a full bob and bangs, citing a comment about needing a …" 1:06:25 The mother-in-law's defense: the 4-year-old said she wanted bangs. Jackie's response is withering: how stupid are you? Claudia's verdict is crisp and enforceable: this woman does not get to take the child alone again until the hair grows back. In that interim period, she should think about what she did. The hosts acknowledge the daughter is probably adorable — hair grows fast — but the boundary violation here is serious enough to require a loud, unambiguous response to prevent escalation.
A mother-in-law took a 4-year-old who had never had a haircut and returned her with a full bob and bangs, citing a comment about needing a trim. The hosts are united: this woman cannot be trusted with the child alone until the hair grows back.
A listener's mother-in-law took her 4-year-old daughter — who had never had a haircut — to get a full bob with bangs, citing a comment about needing a trim before two summer weddings.
Chapter 15 · 1:08:38
The final Dear Toasters letter comes from a married mother who describes her husband's weekly remote sexting ritual — a callback to their college long-distance days — as something she finds exhausting and slightly bizarre given that they live together. She falls asleep putting the kids to bed half the time. [1] — Claudia Oshry "A listener's husband wants to recreate their college long-distance sexting ritual every single week. Claudia's solution: train an AI chatbo…" 1:08:38 Jackie's take: once a week is a lot, and the novelty of this kind of thing requires rarity to remain special. Claudia, in her most inspired advice of the episode, suggests deploying an AI chatbot trained on the listener's previous messages — let it run in the background, go to sleep, problem solved. The environmental impact of AI energy usage is cheerfully waived: the polar bears would have wanted this. The hosts close by suggesting the husband would probably enjoy the AI's output so much he'd start demanding it nightly, at which point the joke completes itself.
A listener's husband wants to recreate their college long-distance sexting ritual every single week. Claudia's solution: train an AI chatbot on your previous messages, let it run in the background, go to sleep. The polar bears understand.
Chapter 16 · 1:11:40
Jackie closes the last episode before a long holiday weekend by directing listeners to The Toast Patreon — $7.99 a month for five bonus episodes, access to 500+ archived vlogs, and a community that is, per Claudia, currently buzzing about the Dear Toasters Time Capsule Patreon episode. A new Patreon episode is being recorded immediately after. Jackie runs through all the podcast platforms and asks for five-star reviews before she and Claudia sign off with matching Fourth of July energy, including one final reprise of 'God Bless the USA.'
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The Toast Patreon costs $7.99 per month and includes five extra episodes monthly plus a catalog of over 500 vlogs.
The Toast Patreon at $7.99/month includes five extra episodes monthly and access to a catalog of over 500 vlogs.
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Discussed extensively in relation to speculation that she and Travis Kelce are getting married at Madison Square Garden on July 3rd.
Former Summer House cast member discussed for hosting Love Island After Sun in Fiji and whether departing the Summer House cast was a good career move.
Australian actor photographed with Kendall Jenner at Brisbane Airport; his relationship history from Joey King to Olivia Jade to Kendall Jenner is discussed.
Reality TV star discussed for leaving Summer House after 10 seasons in the wake of the #Scamanda controversy.
Secret Lives of Mormon Wives star who came out as bisexual on Jay Shetty's podcast and revealed she is currently dating a woman.
Podcast host whose show was the venue for Layla Taylor's bisexual coming-out announcement; the hosts discuss his rising profile and editorial style.
Spotted with Jacob Elordi at Brisbane Airport in Australia, both wearing disguises and still identified by paparazzi.
Love Island USA contestant whose 2018 restraining order filed by a teenage girl was obtained and reported by TMZ.
NFL star and Taylor Swift's partner, subject of widespread wedding speculation surrounding MSG and NYC street closure permits.
Rapper who appeared on Love Island USA as a special guest for a challenge the hosts criticized as normalizing domestic violence.
Pop star whose famous 'on the same page' book meet-cute with husband Callum Turner was called into question by Kylie Jenner's former assistant.
Actress and former girlfriend of Jacob Elordi, brought up as context for his romantic arc from Kissing Booth co-star to Kendall Jenner.
Talk show host spotted by Jackie on the street, described as looking glamorously celebrity despite casual attire.
Premium cookware brand that gifted Claudia new products when her signature color 'shallot' was being retired from their line.
Reality dating show discussed at length, with detailed recaps of Casa Amor, recouplings, and cast behavior including Sincere, Kenzie, Melanie, and Tierra Davis.
Bravo reality series discussed extensively, primarily in the context of Amanda Batula's departure and the show's post-Scamanda future.
Broadway musical used as a framework for a discussion about which character possesses the most 'swirlitude,' with both Glinda and Elphaba deemed 'Toasters.'
Summer destination the hosts are preparing to travel to, prompting Claudia to pack cookware including a Dutch oven and American flag serving platters.
Australian city where Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi were spotted at the airport, described as Jacob Elordi's hometown.
Rumored venue for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding, with trucks being loaded and street closure permits filed for the surrounding area for July 3rd.
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Amanda Batula will not return for Season 11 of Summer House, according to Variety.
Street closure permits were filed with the New York City Department for approximately 8 blocks around Madison Square Garden for July 3rd, similar to closures made for NBA championships.
Layla Taylor said on Jay Shetty's podcast that she is bisexual and is currently dating a woman who first contacted her by liking an Instagram photo.
TMZ obtained a 2018 restraining order filed by 16-year-old Shayla Woodard alleging that then-17-year-old Tierra Davis threatened to shoot her after physically assaulting her over a boyfriend dispute.
The temporary restraining order against Tierra Davis was granted but the case was later dismissed in December 2018.
Kylie Jenner's former assistant Victoria claimed on a podcast that Dua Lipa met Callum Turner at a restaurant when he was on a date with Victoria, undermining the couple's famous book meet-cute story.
Taylor Frankie Paul's ex-partner Dakota called police on Taylor regarding drop-off and custody of their child and concerns about a protective order, according to TMZ.
Love Island USA's Parmida had a slip involving the N-word in a direct message, which the hosts say is worse than singing along to a song.
The Toast Patreon costs $7.99 per month and includes five extra episodes monthly plus a catalog of over 500 vlogs.
Rishi, rumored to be Taylor Swift's wedding planner, posted on Instagram that he asked 23 colleagues if they imagined being part of 'what we created today,' with all unanimously saying no.
NYC street closures were first done for the NBA championships and have never been done for a private event at the scale reportedly planned around MSG for July 3rd.
GU toning pads deliver 8 active ingredients per swipe including niacinamide, snail mucin, and peptides.
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