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Episode 670: Father's Day w/ Stephen King & Joe Hill

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Horror in the 21st Century: Fear, Division, and Collective Catharsis

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Marcus asks whether American culture has become stuck, reflexively recycling 20th century stories and sounds. Stephen is disarmingly honest: he's lost the beat on a lot of contemporary culture and doesn't want to pretend otherwise. But Joe pushes back with real conviction — horror is the one genre doing genuinely new things, driven by 20-something directors like those behind Backrooms and Obsession, and producing an avalanche of great new novels. Stephen offers his explanation for horror's cultural dominance: it's simply a scary time to be alive, and media chases clicks on horrible things. Joe draws the parallel to 1950s nuclear anxiety producing giant ant movies — people externalize their fear through genre. And Stephen makes the most memorable observation of the closing section: nothing unites a politically divided cinema audience like a really good shared scare in the dark. It's powerful.

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