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Will Grant: Cuba's Health Crisis and Whether Cubans Blame Trump or Their Own Government
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Tommy presses Grant on measurable health impacts. Grant acknowledges the Cuban state controls statistics, making reliable data impossible, but describes what he witnessed: hospitals accepting only emergencies during blackouts, a maternity ward running on a large generator for basics, and a pregnant woman he followed whose baby was born in difficult but survivable circumstances thanks to hard-working individual staff. The deeper revelation is about public opinion. For years, Cubans carefully parroted state slogans when journalists put microphones in front of them. Not anymore. Grant describes hearing ordinary Cubans say brazenly that they hope Trump comes in and takes over — not because they love Trump, but because they want whatever this is to be over and want a dignified life for their children. The division is real: old-school revolutionaries are furiously anti-Trump and anti-Rubio; a significant portion of ordinary Cubans have simply lost their fear and want any exit from the current situation [1] — Will Grant "For years, Cubans carefully parroted state slogans to journalists. Not anymore. Will Grant says people are now brazenly speaking out — and …" 1:06:30 .
For years, Cubans carefully parroted state slogans to journalists. Not anymore. Will Grant says people are now brazenly speaking out — and some are openly saying they hope Trump intervenes and takes over, not out of love for Trump, but out of desperation for any change at all.
CIA Director John Ratcliffe visited Havana just days after the Venezuela operation, in which 34 Cuban security officers were killed by Delta Force in seconds. Will Grant showed news of Ratcliffe's visit to a Cuban official and watched him physically turn gray. The message, Grant believes, was simple: you are no military match for us.
