SOLVED with Mark Manson

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Stoicism (ft. Ryan Holiday), Solved

Explore episode Oct 15, 2025

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Epictetus: The Slave Who Was Freer Than the Emperor

At 1:57:37 · chapter starts 1:54:20

Ryan Holiday places Epictetus as the polar opposite of Seneca — both in Nero's orbit, one at the summit of Roman power, one at its absolute bottom. From that position, Epictetus observed free Roman millionaires debasing themselves before Nero's cobbler for imperial favor and concluded they were less free than he was, because they were enslaved to fear and desire. His core teaching — that there are things up to you and things not up to you, and wisdom consists in separating the two — is the most resilient and battle-tested layer of Stoicism. The emperor Hadrian eventually traveled to listen to Epictetus lecture, a reversal of power that Holiday finds deeply fitting. Epictetus's Discourses, recorded by his student Arrian, made their way to a young Marcus Aurelius via his philosophy teacher Rusticus — a book loan that Holiday argues changed Western civilization.

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