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LIVE(ish) from the Obama Presidential Center

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Obama, Michelle, and the First Black President Standard

At 32:55 · chapter starts 26:30

Jon Lovett delivers a sharp observation: the 2008 Obama campaign ran on 'change,' but what actually closed the deal against John McCain during the financial crisis was something quieter — a preternatural evenness, reliability, and trustworthiness that gave voters permission to take a chance on him when McCain appeared erratic. That quality now stands in stark contrast to Trump. Dan Pfeiffer adds that working for Obama meant knowing he had a core belief about literally anything you brought him, and it always came from a good place — a contrast to walking into today's Oval Office where staffers are day-trading on the Iran war. Jon Favreau invokes Ta-Nehisi Coates's famous line from his long profile of Obama: 'For 8 years he walked on ice and never fell.' The hosts then turn to Michelle's speech directly, noting that she made text what was always subtext — that Obama for 8 years could not make a single mistake, could not lash out, could not send an angry tweet, because how he performed as the first Black president would determine whether and when there would be a second. Tommy Vietor notes one concrete example she cited: Obama pointing out that Trayvon Martin looked like what his son would look like.

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Michelle Obama's dedication speech at the Obama Presidential Center moved the audience to tears — including the sign language interpreter. Her remarks on the impossible standard applied to the first Black president, her barely-veiled indictment of the current administration, and her rallying cry that people of all backgrounds are America made it arguably the most powerful political speech of the year.

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