Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe

Snapshot · Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe

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Explore episode Jul 10, 2026

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Lauren Laverne: Ego Death, Having Kids Young, and the Auntie Jean Story

At 22:14 · chapter starts 21:10

Lauren Laverne echoes Josh's wife's observation — that having kids made her stop trying to be cool — by describing parenthood as fundamentally an exercise in ego death. She was relatively young when she had children: her first son arrived when she was 28 or 29, her second at 30 or 31. At the time, no one else in her social circle had children yet. When her auntie Jean came to London to meet the new baby, she reassured Lauren that the 'good thing' was that she was an older mother — at 29. Lauren recalls feeling approximately fifteen years old with a baby and no idea what to do, while being treated as practically a grandmother. The story captures the way generational expectations around the 'right' age for parenthood have shifted dramatically in one generation.

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