He's a Rat!

He's a Rat!

Bobby Lee just learned he's been half-blind his entire life — and the eye doctor had to walk him outside to show him trees exist across the street.

Jun 1, 2026 1:01:06 Difficulty: Beginner Played

TL;DR

Bobby Lee and Andrew Santino kick off with Bobby's first-ever eye doctor visit — complete with a revelation that he's been half-blind his whole life — before spiraling into hantavirus conspiracy theories, cruise ship epidemiology, and a hilarious hygiene intervention aimed at their tour manager Carlos (Fancy). The episode's centerpiece is a chaotic on-air confrontation where Carlos is accused of ratting out Andrew as a difficult road companion, Bobby calls his own agent live, and the whole crew dissolves into a room full of lies. Best takeaway: even dragon's breath can't stop you from doing better with the ladies than Bobby Lee.

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Bobby Lee and Andrew Santino cover Bobby's first eye doctor visit, hantavirus fears, hygiene confrontations with tour manager Carlos (Fancy), and an explosive on-air conflict over who is the real 'rat' in the friend group.

Chapter list
  • The episode kicks off with the Bad Friends jingle and the hosts riffing immediately on Bobby Lee's eye doctor visit — a genuinely remarkable first in his 54 years of life. Bobby recounts the whole experience: the futuristic lab equipment, the interior eye scan, the HOVM eye chart he could barely read. The real punchline arrives when the doctor walked him outside, placed glasses on his face, and Bobby saw trees across the street for the first time with clarity. He describes it like a miracle. Andrew is merciless: 'It's just glasses. Glasses were invented in 1268.' Bobby compounds the revelation by announcing he's getting bifocals — long distance on top, reading on the bottom — so he can finally see everything clearly, including, he notes ominously, his own belly button. The segment closes on Bobby's caveat that after removing the doctor's glasses, everything seemed blurry, suggesting he may have already adapted to impaired vision as his baseline normal.

  • Barely recovered from the eye doctor conversation, Bobby pivots to his dental situation — and it is grim. His dentist warned him that his foundations and root structures are so compromised that by age 60, all his remaining teeth will have fallen out. He has what he calls 'gingivitis number 5.' Andrew, puzzled, looks up Korean dental health and discovers that Koreans practice the '333 rule' — brushing three times a day, three minutes each — and are widely recognized for having some of the strongest teeth in the world. This makes Bobby's situation a notable genetic anomaly. The hosts debate flossing frequency (Bobby claims daily, Andrew admits one to two times a week at best), and Bobby considers getting dental implants drilled into bone. The segment lands on a bleak but funny image: perfect long-distance vision, zero teeth.

  • The hantavirus conversation was already percolating — Bobby says four different people had brought it up to him that day — and he finally gets to lay out his full understanding of the virus. Most strains, he explains, are contracted by inhaling particles from rat urine or feces, commonly in rural or agricultural settings in South America. The Andes strain is the dangerous exception: it can spread human-to-human, and it is the strain linked to the cruise ship outbreak. The infected couple originally caught it while bird-watching in Argentina, bringing it onto the boat. Andrew's response is immediate and absolute: 'Stop watching birds. They don't need to be watched.' Bobby then places this in the broader context of 'white people adventurism cruises' — the kind that go to Kilimanjaro, into cave systems, and to ancient temples — contrasting them with the Adam Devine-style cruise he once attended. He notes that white explorers discovered caves in Vietnam before the Vietnamese bothered to enter them, which he takes as evidence of a pattern.

  • The ad block opens with Shopify, which the hosts describe as the platform behind 10 percent of all US e-commerce. Bobby particularly evangelizes the purple Shop Pay button, calling it the best-converting checkout on the planet. Next up is QUO, introduced as the number one rated business phone system on G2 with over 3,000 reviews — Andrew pitches it as a solution for entrepreneurs who need professional phone presence without a separate office infrastructure. The Rocket Money read is the most personal: Bobby recalls how Andrew introduced him to the app years ago, and he has since saved thousands of dollars a year by canceling forgotten subscriptions. Andrew notes the platform has collectively saved all its users over $880 million in canceled subscriptions, making the case for anyone who has ever paid for a streaming service they forgot about.

  • Andrew mentions that the previous night a woman at a restaurant was wearing Bobby's cologne, which sparks the cologne segment. Andrew identifies Carlos's scent as Malin and Goetz Rum — too much goat, not enough Malin — and Bobby launches into his own routine: wrist spray, rub, under the shirt spray to get both skin and fabric, and then a taint application for ambient scent aura without direct taste contact. The hosts then pivot to Carlos's breath, which Bobby describes as dragon-like and medieval. The root cause is excavated: Carlos has been eating almost exclusively avocado toast and smoothies for an entire year, supplemented by tobacco vaping, with occasional McDonald's. Andrew and Bobby both agree this combination is the source of an aura that makes nearby people seek relief. Bobby offers Carlos a financial 'hygiene bump' and promises to supply Listerine strips before the road trip Thursday. Carlos largely absorbs the criticism while offering minimal resistance.

  • Bobby opens the BlueChew segment with characteristic candor: he's 54, almost 55, has a girlfriend, and uses BlueChew because erectile dysfunction is a reality of aging and millions of people experience it. Andrew pitches BlueChew Gold as the brand's 'arousal boosting formula,' describing it as helping millions of men perform better in 2026. The offer: buy two months, get the third free with promo code BADFRIENDS. The Kachava read follows, with Bobby claiming it is his desert island meal of choice across all six flavors — chocolate, vanilla, chai, matcha, coconut açaí, and strawberry. Andrew highlights that it covers protein, fiber, vitamins, probiotics, omegas, and electrolytes. A brief Starbucks Frappuccino pre-roll then plays before the show returns to the Carlos confrontation.

  • The episode's central confrontation erupts when Bobby claims Carlos confided in him that Andrew Santino is the more difficult artist on the road. Andrew is stunned. Carlos's denial is immediate and unexpectedly cutting: he says he would never tell Bobby anything personal because Bobby is a known rat — a gossip who immediately shares private information with everyone around him. The accusation lands so squarely that Bobby briefly agrees: 'I'm a gossiper.' Carlos clarifies that he does not disclose difficult truths to Bobby precisely because he knows Bobby will weaponize them on air or relay them to the team. He also suggests that because Andrew is scarier, Carlos redirects any frustration toward the more approachable Bobby — a dynamic Bobby says he has long suspected. The room enters full chaos mode.

  • The episode spirals into an epistemological free-fall as Bobby demands Carlos swear on his daughter's life that he never said Andrew was a difficult tour companion. Carlos swears it. Andrew and Bobby then question everyone else in the room, with Fancy admitting yes — he was lying about lying. The verdict: nobody can be believed. Andrew declares it 'a room full of liars.' Carlos gets a brief moment of genuine reflection when he says the show is going to end over lies, and Bobby responds by walking back some of the hygiene roasting, clarifying the mythological creature comparisons (dragon, ogre, troll) were for comedy and not meant personally. The episode closes on the most unexpected note: Bobby Lee admits that despite his notoriety and income, Carlos has historically outperformed him with women, attributing it to something ineffable rather than any hygiene-adjacent quality. He thanks Carlos for being a bad friend and the episode ends.

Andes strain
A specific variant of hantavirus found in South America that is unique in being transmissible from human to human, unlike most hantavirus strains that spread only through contact with rodent droppings.
Hantavirus
A group of viruses carried primarily by rodents; humans typically contract it by inhaling particles from infected rodent urine or droppings. The Andes strain can also spread person-to-person.
Incubation period
The time between initial infection and the appearance of symptoms, during which a person may be infected but not yet contagious or aware they are sick.
HEPA filter
High-Efficiency Particulate Air filter — a type of air filtration system used in aircraft and medical settings to capture tiny airborne particles, including some pathogens.
Spelunking
The recreational exploration of caves, often in tight or dangerous underground spaces. Bobby Lee uses it as shorthand for the kind of extreme adventure tourism he attributes to white travelers.
Unck (Unc)
Slang, short for 'uncle' — used to describe an older man who acts in an avuncular, overly familiar, or slightly out-of-touch way around younger people, often making comments that inadvertently reveal his age.
Rider
In the entertainment industry, the list of specific requirements and amenities an artist demands be provided by a venue before a performance, often including food, drinks, and dressing room conditions.
Gingivitis
An inflammation of the gums caused by plaque buildup, which can progress to more serious gum disease. Bobby Lee refers to having 'gingivitis number 5,' implying a severe level of gum disease.
333 rule
A Korean oral hygiene practice of brushing teeth three times a day, within three minutes of each meal, for three minutes each time, culturally associated with Koreans' reputation for strong dental health.
Drop eye
Informal term for ptosis — a condition where the upper eyelid droops lower than normal. Bobby Lee says he has the condition but does not 'do' it, implying he refuses to let it define him.
CRM
Customer Relationship Management — software that helps businesses track interactions with customers and clients, mentioned in the QUO sponsor read as a system QUO can sync with.
Avuncular
Of or relating to the manner of an uncle; kind, friendly, and indulgent toward younger people. Used implicitly throughout the 'unck' discussion.

Chapter 1 · 00:00

Little Asian Eyes

The episode kicks off with the Bad Friends jingle and the hosts riffing immediately on Bobby Lee's eye doctor visit — a genuinely remarkable first in his 54 years of life. Bobby recounts the whole experience: the futuristic lab equipment, the interior eye scan, the HOVM eye chart he could barely read. The real punchline arrives when the doctor walked him outside, placed glasses on his face, and Bobby saw trees across the street for the first time with clarity. He describes it like a miracle. Andrew is merciless: 'It's just glasses. Glasses were invented in 1268.' Bobby compounds the revelation by announcing he's getting bifocals — long distance on top, reading on the bottom — so he can finally see everything clearly, including, he notes ominously, his own belly button. The segment closes on Bobby's caveat that after removing the doctor's glasses, everything seemed blurry, suggesting he may have already adapted to impaired vision as his baseline normal.

Claims made here

Glasses were invented in 1268.

Andrew Santino no source cited

Health & Fitness
Bobby Lee Gets Glasses for the First Time at 54

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Health & Fitness

Bobby Lee visited an eye doctor for the first time and was genuinely shocked to discover he'd been half-blind his whole life. The doctor walked him outside and put glasses on him — Bobby immediately saw trees across the street he couldn't make out before, calling it a miracle. Andrew's response: 'It's just glasses. They were invented in 1268.'

Health & Fitness
First glasses at ~55

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Bobby Lee visited an eye doctor for the first time and discovered he has significant distance vision problems, having never worn glasses in his life.

Health & Fitness
Eyesight good until 80s

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Bobby's eye doctor told him, after scanning the interior of his eye with advanced equipment, that his eyesight should remain healthy into his 80s.

Chapter 2 · 06:00

King Unc

Barely recovered from the eye doctor conversation, Bobby pivots to his dental situation — and it is grim. His dentist warned him that his foundations and root structures are so compromised that by age 60, all his remaining teeth will have fallen out. He has what he calls 'gingivitis number 5.' Andrew, puzzled, looks up Korean dental health and discovers that Koreans practice the '333 rule' — brushing three times a day, three minutes each — and are widely recognized for having some of the strongest teeth in the world. This makes Bobby's situation a notable genetic anomaly. The hosts debate flossing frequency (Bobby claims daily, Andrew admits one to two times a week at best), and Bobby considers getting dental implants drilled into bone. The segment lands on a bleak but funny image: perfect long-distance vision, zero teeth.

Claims made here

Koreans are known for having some of the strongest teeth in the world due to a culture of meticulous oral hygiene.

Andrew Santino Online search result read aloud during episode

Health & Fitness
Bobby's Teeth Are Falling Out by 60

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Health & Fitness

Bobby Lee got double bad news: perfect long-distance vision, but his dentist says all his teeth will fall out by age 60. His foundations and roots are shot — full-on gingivitis level 5. Andrew tried to comfort him by pointing out Koreans are known for having the world's strongest teeth. Bobby is apparently the exception.

Health & Fitness
Teeth gone by 60

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Bobby Lee was told by his dentist that due to his weak dental foundations, all his remaining teeth will likely fall out by the time he reaches 60.

Health & Fitness
Koreans: 333 dental rule

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Andrew Santino cited the Korean '333 rule' — brushing 3 times a day for 3 minutes each — as evidence that Koreans are known for exceptionally strong teeth.

Comedy
King Unck: When You Cross a Line Pretending to Be Nice

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee was eating at a restaurant when a group of fans approached. He asked if any of the guys were her boyfriend, then asked what she looks for in a guy. She said: 'Not Asian.' Carlos explains Bobby was just being an 'unck' — an older guy acting avuncular. Andrew demonstrates a proper unck line. Nobody fully recovers from this exchange.

Chapter 3 · 13:00

White People Cruises

The hantavirus conversation was already percolating — Bobby says four different people had brought it up to him that day — and he finally gets to lay out his full understanding of the virus. Most strains, he explains, are contracted by inhaling particles from rat urine or feces, commonly in rural or agricultural settings in South America. The Andes strain is the dangerous exception: it can spread human-to-human, and it is the strain linked to the cruise ship outbreak. The infected couple originally caught it while bird-watching in Argentina, bringing it onto the boat. Andrew's response is immediate and absolute: 'Stop watching birds. They don't need to be watched.' Bobby then places this in the broader context of 'white people adventurism cruises' — the kind that go to Kilimanjaro, into cave systems, and to ancient temples — contrasting them with the Adam Devine-style cruise he once attended. He notes that white explorers discovered caves in Vietnam before the Vietnamese bothered to enter them, which he takes as evidence of a pattern.

Claims made here

The Andes strain of hantavirus is the only strain that can spread human-to-human.

Bobby Lee no source cited

The couple who contracted hantavirus on a cruise ship originally got it while bird-watching in Argentina.

Bobby Lee no source cited

Health & Fitness
Hantavirus: The Breakdown

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Health & Fitness

Bobby Lee delivers a surprisingly accurate breakdown of hantavirus: most strains come from rat droppings, but the Andes strain — found on a recent cruise — is human-to-human transmissible. The couple who got it were bird-watching in Argentina. Bobby's verdict: this is a white people problem. Andrew's addendum: stop watching birds.

Health & Fitness
Andes strain: human-to-human

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

The Andes strain of hantavirus — the one on a recent cruise ship — can spread human-to-human, unlike most strains that require exposure to rodent droppings.

Comedy
White People and Adventurism Cruises

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Not all cruises are Adam Devine cruises. Bobby Lee identifies a specific type he calls the 'white people adventurism cruise' — Kilimanjaro, cave spelunking, ancient temples. These are the people who discovered caves in Vietnam before the Vietnamese bothered to look inside. And now they've brought hantavirus back from Argentina via bird-watching.

Chapter 4 · 18:00

Sick Days & Holy Rats

The ad block opens with Shopify, which the hosts describe as the platform behind 10 percent of all US e-commerce. Bobby particularly evangelizes the purple Shop Pay button, calling it the best-converting checkout on the planet. Next up is QUO, introduced as the number one rated business phone system on G2 with over 3,000 reviews — Andrew pitches it as a solution for entrepreneurs who need professional phone presence without a separate office infrastructure. The Rocket Money read is the most personal: Bobby recalls how Andrew introduced him to the app years ago, and he has since saved thousands of dollars a year by canceling forgotten subscriptions. Andrew notes the platform has collectively saved all its users over $880 million in canceled subscriptions, making the case for anyone who has ever paid for a streaming service they forgot about.

Claims made here

Hantavirus has a 30 to 40 percent mortality rate.

Bobby Lee no source cited

Hantavirus has an incubation period of 21 to 40 days.

Bobby Lee no source cited

A person infected with hantavirus is not contagious until they are showing symptoms.

Bobby Lee no source cited

The most rat-infested cities include LA, Chicago, Paris, New York, and London.

Andrew Santino Online search result read aloud during episode

The Karni Mata Temple in Deshnoke, India, is home to thousands of rats considered holy.

Andrew Santino Online search result read aloud during episode

Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the United States.

Bobby Lee no source cited

QUO is the number one rated business phone system on G2 with over 3,000 reviews.

Bobby Lee G2 reviews platform

More than 90,000 businesses use QUO.

Bobby Lee QUO

Rocket Money has collectively saved its users over $880 million in canceled subscriptions.

Andrew Santino Rocket Money

Comedy
The Sick Day Debate: Go to Work or Stay Home?

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee argues that sick people should stay home and not infect others. Andrew flips it: everyone should go to work as sick as possible. His evidence is Carlos, who has never missed a day despite getting the entire touring crew sick in Denver. Bobby then blames Carlos for any future hantavirus infections he contracts.

Society & Culture
Fancy never misses work

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Carlos (Fancy), the show's producer, has reportedly never taken a day off work even when sick, according to Andrew Santino.

Health & Fitness
Data point 30-40%

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Health & Fitness

Hantavirus kills 30 to 40 percent of the people who get it. The incubation period is 21 to 40 days — meaning you can carry it for over a month before you even know. Andrew clocked in another terrifying fact: kidney failure can hit within 4 to 10 days of symptoms. The one silver lining: you can't spread it until you're symptomatic.

Health & Fitness
Data point 30-40%

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Bobby Lee stated that hantavirus has a 30 to 40 percent mortality rate, making it significantly more deadly than common infections.

Health & Fitness
21-40 day incubation period

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Hantavirus has an incubation period of 21 to 40 days, meaning a person can be infected for over a month before showing symptoms.

Business
Data point 90,000+

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

QUO, the business phone system sponsor, is used by more than 90,000 businesses ranging from solo operators to growing teams.

Business
Data point $880M

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Rocket Money has collectively saved its users over $880 million in canceled unwanted subscriptions.

Chapter 5 · 25:30

Goat Cologne

Andrew mentions that the previous night a woman at a restaurant was wearing Bobby's cologne, which sparks the cologne segment. Andrew identifies Carlos's scent as Malin and Goetz Rum — too much goat, not enough Malin — and Bobby launches into his own routine: wrist spray, rub, under the shirt spray to get both skin and fabric, and then a taint application for ambient scent aura without direct taste contact. The hosts then pivot to Carlos's breath, which Bobby describes as dragon-like and medieval. The root cause is excavated: Carlos has been eating almost exclusively avocado toast and smoothies for an entire year, supplemented by tobacco vaping, with occasional McDonald's. Andrew and Bobby both agree this combination is the source of an aura that makes nearby people seek relief. Bobby offers Carlos a financial 'hygiene bump' and promises to supply Listerine strips before the road trip Thursday. Carlos largely absorbs the criticism while offering minimal resistance.

Claims made here

Hantavirus can cause kidney failure within 4 to 10 days of symptoms appearing.

Andrew Santino Online search during the episode

Some analysts forecast a 40 to 50 percent probability of a US recession due to high interest rates.

Andrew Santino Online search result read aloud during episode

Health & Fitness
Kidney failure in 4-10 days

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Andrew Santino noted that hantavirus can cause kidney failure within just 4 to 10 days after symptoms first appear.

Business
Data point 40-50%

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

As of May, some analysts forecast a 40 to 50 percent probability of a US economic downturn due to high interest rates and mixed economic signals.

Comedy
The Hygiene Intervention: Carlos's Dragon's Breath

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee has had enough. His tour manager Carlos (Fancy) vapes tobacco, barely eats, and has been on an avocado toast and smoothie diet for a year. Bobby calls him an ogre, a troll, and a dragon — then offers him a 'hygiene bump' financial incentive. Andrew's cologne tutorial and Bobby's taint-spray technique don't help matters.

Comedy
Bobby Lee's Cologne Ritual

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee's cologne technique is unconventional: spray the wrists and rub, spray upward under the shirt to hit skin and fabric simultaneously, and — most notably — lift the sack and hit the taint. The reasoning is airtight: you want the aura, not the taste. Andrew approved. Carlos was unmoved.

Chapter 6 · 35:00

No Meat BBQ

Bobby opens the BlueChew segment with characteristic candor: he's 54, almost 55, has a girlfriend, and uses BlueChew because erectile dysfunction is a reality of aging and millions of people experience it. Andrew pitches BlueChew Gold as the brand's 'arousal boosting formula,' describing it as helping millions of men perform better in 2026. The offer: buy two months, get the third free with promo code BADFRIENDS. The Kachava read follows, with Bobby claiming it is his desert island meal of choice across all six flavors — chocolate, vanilla, chai, matcha, coconut açaí, and strawberry. Andrew highlights that it covers protein, fiber, vitamins, probiotics, omegas, and electrolytes. A brief Starbucks Frappuccino pre-roll then plays before the show returns to the Carlos confrontation.

Arts
Bobby's Tour Rider Is Suspiciously Reasonable

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Arts

Bobby Lee's entire concert rider has two items: water and sugar-free Red Bull. Add a stool on stage and a meal, and that's it. He contrasts this with the mythological complexity of Michael Jackson's rider, arguing Carlos's characterization of him as a difficult artist is completely unjustified by the facts.

Arts
Data point 2

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026

Bobby Lee's entire touring rider consists of only two items: water and sugar-free Red Bull, making him one of the least demanding touring comedians.

Chapter 7 · 49:00

The Rat

The episode's central confrontation erupts when Bobby claims Carlos confided in him that Andrew Santino is the more difficult artist on the road. Andrew is stunned. Carlos's denial is immediate and unexpectedly cutting: he says he would never tell Bobby anything personal because Bobby is a known rat — a gossip who immediately shares private information with everyone around him. The accusation lands so squarely that Bobby briefly agrees: 'I'm a gossiper.' Carlos clarifies that he does not disclose difficult truths to Bobby precisely because he knows Bobby will weaponize them on air or relay them to the team. He also suggests that because Andrew is scarier, Carlos redirects any frustration toward the more approachable Bobby — a dynamic Bobby says he has long suspected. The room enters full chaos mode.

Comedy
The Rat Accusation: Carlos Goes Behind Andrew's Back

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee drops a bomb: Carlos (Fancy) apparently told him that Andrew is the really difficult one on tour — not Bobby. Carlos denies it immediately, saying he'd never say that to Bobby because Bobby is 'such a fucking rat' who tells everyone everything. The accusation spirals into competing lies, a live phone call to Bobby's agent, and a potential firing.

Comedy
Bobby Calls His Agent Live On Air to Fire Carlos

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee pulls out his phone mid-episode and calls his agent Abby live on air. He announces that Carlos has dragon's breath, smells like an ogre, and hasn't been stocking his rider properly. He concludes: 'This tour is fine, but the next tour I do, he's out.' He then hangs up and announces the agent is fired too.

Comedy
McCone Confirms: Andrew Is Scarier

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee turns to McCone (the production assistant) for a nonpartisan verdict: who is scarier to work with, Bobby or Andrew? McCone's answer without hesitation: Andrew. Bobby takes this as vindication that Carlos treats him worse precisely because he's the easier target — not the harder boss.

Chapter 8 · 54:00

Room Full of Lies

The episode spirals into an epistemological free-fall as Bobby demands Carlos swear on his daughter's life that he never said Andrew was a difficult tour companion. Carlos swears it. Andrew and Bobby then question everyone else in the room, with Fancy admitting yes — he was lying about lying. The verdict: nobody can be believed. Andrew declares it 'a room full of liars.' Carlos gets a brief moment of genuine reflection when he says the show is going to end over lies, and Bobby responds by walking back some of the hygiene roasting, clarifying the mythological creature comparisons (dragon, ogre, troll) were for comedy and not meant personally. The episode closes on the most unexpected note: Bobby Lee admits that despite his notoriety and income, Carlos has historically outperformed him with women, attributing it to something ineffable rather than any hygiene-adjacent quality. He thanks Carlos for being a bad friend and the episode ends.

Comedy
The Room Full of Lies

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby forces Carlos to swear on his daughter's life that he never called Andrew a difficult tour companion. Carlos does it. Then, seconds later, everyone is questioning everything. Carlos admits to lying about lying. Andrew declares the whole booth is a room full of liars and no one can be believed anymore.

Comedy
Bobby Admits Carlos Does Better with Women

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee ends his dragon's breath tirade with a stunning confession: despite his fame and money, he has historically done worse with women than Carlos. Dragon's breath, ogre smell, and all — Carlos still wins. It's the most backhanded compliment in Bad Friends history.

No indexed bits in this chapter.

Show stoppers

Comedy
Bobby Calls His Agent Live On Air to Fire Carlos

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee pulls out his phone mid-episode and calls his agent Abby live on air. He announces that Carlos has dragon's breath, smells like an ogre, and hasn't been stocking his rider properly. He concludes: 'This tour is fine, but the next tour I do, he's out.' He then hangs up and announces the agent is fired too.

Health & Fitness
Bobby Lee Gets Glasses for the First Time at 54

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Health & Fitness

Bobby Lee visited an eye doctor for the first time and was genuinely shocked to discover he'd been half-blind his whole life. The doctor walked him outside and put glasses on him — Bobby immediately saw trees across the street he couldn't make out before, calling it a miracle. Andrew's response: 'It's just glasses. They were invented in 1268.'

Comedy
The Rat Accusation: Carlos Goes Behind Andrew's Back

He's a Rat! · Jun 1, 2026 Comedy

Bobby Lee drops a bomb: Carlos (Fancy) apparently told him that Andrew is the really difficult one on tour — not Bobby. Carlos denies it immediately, saying he'd never say that to Bobby because Bobby is 'such a fucking rat' who tells everyone everything. The accusation spirals into competing lies, a live phone call to Bobby's agent, and a potential firing.

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7 / 15 cited (47%)

Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.

Hantavirus has a 30 to 40 percent mortality rate.

Bobby Lee no source cited

Hantavirus has an incubation period of 21 to 40 days.

Bobby Lee no source cited

A person infected with hantavirus is not contagious until they are showing symptoms.

Bobby Lee no source cited

The Andes strain of hantavirus is the only strain that can spread human-to-human.

Bobby Lee no source cited

The couple who contracted hantavirus on a cruise ship originally got it while bird-watching in Argentina.

Bobby Lee no source cited

Hantavirus can cause kidney failure within 4 to 10 days of symptoms appearing.

Andrew Santino Online search during the episode

Rocket Money has collectively saved its users over $880 million in canceled subscriptions.

Andrew Santino Rocket Money

QUO is the number one rated business phone system on G2 with over 3,000 reviews.

Bobby Lee G2 reviews platform

More than 90,000 businesses use QUO.

Bobby Lee QUO

Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the United States.

Bobby Lee no source cited

Koreans are known for having some of the strongest teeth in the world due to a culture of meticulous oral hygiene.

Andrew Santino Online search result read aloud during episode

Some analysts forecast a 40 to 50 percent probability of a US recession due to high interest rates.

Andrew Santino Online search result read aloud during episode

Glasses were invented in 1268.

Andrew Santino no source cited

The most rat-infested cities include LA, Chicago, Paris, New York, and London.

Andrew Santino Online search result read aloud during episode

The Karni Mata Temple in Deshnoke, India, is home to thousands of rats considered holy.

Andrew Santino Online search result read aloud during episode