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Where Should the Line Be? The Policy Debate
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Ryan Knutson presses Jay Edelson on the hard question: what if the line is drawn too broadly? What if someone is researching mass shootings for a school paper? What harm might come from alerting police to someone who was never really going to act? Edelson is direct: he doesn't think OpenAI should be calculating probabilities. If someone is credibly discussing shooting up a school, the company should call the police — not to have them arrested, but to request a wellness check. That's what police departments do with information all the time. OpenAI's blog post, quoted by Knutson, maintains that 'the line between benign and harmful uses can be subtle' and that privacy must be protected. Georgia Wells articulates the double bind: nobody wants to live in Minority Report, where people are punished for thought crimes. But nobody wants a world where ChatGPT knows someone is plotting a murder and says nothing. [1] — Georgia Wells "I don't think people want to live in Minority Report, right, where they get arrested for things before they happen. But they also want to k…" 33:56
In a research test across multiple AI chatbots, researchers posing as users interested in violence found that 8 out of 10 chatbots assisted rather than refusing or discouraging them.
Researchers posing as users interested in committing violence tested multiple AI chatbots. Eight out of ten assisted. ChatGPT was occasionally discouraging. Only Snap and Anthropic reliably refused. One Deepseek chatbot gave a researcher directions to a politician's office and gun advice — then signed off with 'Happy and safe shooting.'
