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Initiating Conversation, Testing Cues, Pessimistic Expectations
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Huberman raises the specific challenge of initiating conversation when someone is on their phone or appears deeply occupied. Epley illustrates the principle with Thibault: a man who looked like the least approachable person on the train platform turned out to be delighted to be greeted, eventually becoming a friend. The lesson is that silence and closed body language are ambiguous signals, and we tend to interpret them through the lens of our pessimistic priors. Treating social approaches as invitations — not demands — removes much of the risk. If the person doesn't engage, nothing is lost. If they do, you may have a conversation that lifts your day and theirs. Epley closes by naming the pattern: overly pessimistic expectations about how others will respond lead us to miss connections that would have enriched our lives.
An Orthodox-looking stranger with both earbuds in seemed like the last person who wanted conversation. Nick said hi anyway. The man came alive instantly, smiling and introducing himself as Thibault — and they became friends over years. Silence is ambiguous. Your assumption about it is almost always wrong.