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Talks on Love Playlist (5/5): Why friendship can be just as meaningful as romantic love | Rhaina Cohen

Explore episode Jun 12, 2026

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The Marriage-Centered Problem: Who Gets Left Out?

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Cohen's opening is a kind of conceptual judo — she starts by quoting Justice Kennedy's celebrated Obergefell opinion, which frames marriage as humanity's answer to the fear of calling out and finding no one there. It's a beautiful line, and it wins immediate agreement from the room. Then she turns it: what does this say to the record-high share of Americans who have never married? What does it say to the roughly 30% of American women over 65 who are widows? Partnered people, she warns, aren't off the hook either — statistically, any of us is unlikely to have a spouse at our final moment. The implication is uncomfortable and clarifying: we have built an entire cultural and legal infrastructure around a relationship that cannot, on its own, sustain us across an unpredictable life.

Government
The Supreme Court Case That Speaks Only to the Married

Talks on Love Playlist (5/5): Why friendship can be just as… · Jun 12, 2026 Government

Justice Kennedy's opinion recognizing same-sex marriage speaks of marriage as a response to 'the universal fear that a lonely person might call out only to find no one there.' But what does that say to the record number of Americans who have never been married? Rhaina Cohen points out that the most celebrated statement about human connection is actually a statement about exclusion.

Society & Culture
How a Personal Friendship Sparked a Book

Talks on Love Playlist (5/5): Why friendship can be just as… · Jun 12, 2026 Society & Culture

Rhaina Cohen's book began with a friendship she stumbled into — one where holding hands was a reflex, where they saw each other most days, where the boundaries between romance and platonic love blurred. She went out and interviewed dozens of people with similar friendships. What she found reshaped how she thinks about love.

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