The Rest Is Politics: US

Snapshot · The Rest Is Politics: US

196. Trump’s Iran Deal: One Big American Failure?

Explore episode Jun 15, 2026

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Liberals, Conservatives, and the Culture Divide

At 35:05 · chapter starts 32:40

The UFC conversation deepens into a broader reckoning with American cultural politics. Katty Kay is unambiguous: part of the reason Trump won was because liberals sneered at conservative America, and the UFC event was engineered to prove exactly that point. The overt nationalism, hyper-masculinity, and deliberate torching of elite sensibilities are features, not bugs. But she complicates the liberal-versus-conservative binary: the world on display at the White House on Sunday night would be utterly alien to George Will, William F. Buckley, or Mitt Romney. The traditional Republican Party — Heritage Foundation black-tie dinners, country club conservatism — has been as thoroughly evicted from its home as any progressive. And Scaramucci adds his most striking observation: Trump has successfully hijacked American patriotism itself, so that wearing a flag pin now signals MAGA rather than mere love of country, in a way that Gerald Ford's bipartisan 1976 bicentennial never did.

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Trump Hijacked the American Flag

196. Trump’s Iran Deal: One Big American Failure? · Jun 15, 2026 Society & Culture

Scaramucci remembers the 1976 bicentennial as a genuinely bipartisan celebration where wearing a flag was just patriotism. Today, thanks to Trump, a flag pin reads as MAGA. He has turned the most universal American symbol into a tribal marker — and that transformation is irreversible.

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