Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe

Snapshot · Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe

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Explore episode Jul 10, 2026

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Lauren Laverne: Amy Winehouse, the Internet, and the Collapse of Genre

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Prompted by a discussion about how today's teenagers know all music — from Bossa Nova to drum and bass — Rob Beckett observes that music algorithms now expose listeners to sixty years of music through a single recommendation. Lauren Laverne takes the thought further. She argues that the mid-noughties represent the moment when digitally available music reference points started reshaping artistic creation, and that Amy Winehouse is the clearest early example of this. Winehouse combined a Shangri-La sound, colloquial modern lyric writing, and a soulful voice drawn from multiple non-contemporary influences — a fusion only possible when all those references are permanently accessible. This is, Lauren argues, what modern pop music now is: deeply literate across genres because the internet has removed the gatekeepers. Josh Widdicombe is so impressed he announces he'll be passing the observation off as his own. Rob also claims partial credit. Lauren graciously surrenders it.

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