The YouTube investigator covering the Lego theft was arrested in Utah for starting a GoFundMe.
Ep 618 - Officer Lemaire (feat. Charles Blyzniuk & Lemaire Lee)
A Lego reseller allegedly backed by a "Mormon Mafia" is bribing Utah cops to keep stolen bricks worth $200,000 — and a YouTube investigator keeps getting arrested for trying to expose it.
Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 618 - Officer Lemaire (feat. Charles Blyzniuk & Lemaire Lee)
A Lego reseller allegedly backed by a "Mormon Mafia" is bribing Utah cops to keep stolen bricks worth $200,000 — and a YouTube investigator keeps getting arrested for trying to expose it.
TL;DR
Shane Gillis hosts a Matt-free episode of MSSP with Lemaire Lee and Charles Blyzniuk, kicking off with a deep dive into a viral YouTube investigation of a Utah Lego reseller allegedly run by a "Mormon Mafia" that cops won't touch [1] — Lemaire Lee "A YouTuber uncovering a Lego theft by Utah-based Bricks and Minifigs keeps getting arrested despite doing everything legally. The alleged M…" 03:13 . The crew riffs on Diddy's leaked video, AI job displacement, NBA Finals picks, Trump's alleged flatulence, and Lemaire's plan to impersonate a cop for social media content [2] — Shane Gillis "Shane drank White Claws on the way to the NBA Finals and was so hungover he couldn't leave his room the next day, causing the crew to set u…" 56:35 . The single most useful takeaway: Lemaire's "thigh rub" confession is peak chaotic energy and the episode's breakout moment [3] — Lemaire Lee "From ages 22 to 25, Lemaire Lee masturbated exclusively using his thighs — no hands required. The hosts are equally horrified and impressed…" 21:36 .
Matt McCusker is absent for this episode, with Lemaire Lee and Charles Blyzniuk filling in alongside Shane Gillis. Topics include a viral Lego reseller scandal involving alleged Mormon corruption in Utah, AI job displacement fears, NBA Finals discussion, and Lemaire's various confessions.
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The episode kicks off mid-joke with no formal intro — just the crew riffing on Instagram influencer Luke Belmar, who has apparently returned to the internet with a shaved head, a scarf, and a new business persona. Lemaire jokes that Belmar went to China with Wembanyama to study ancient wisdom from monks, and that they've divided their responsibilities: Wemby handles basketball, Belmar handles business. Shane mimics Belmar's AI-doom convention-center pitch to a crowd that laps it up, setting the loose, chaotic tone for the whole episode.
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Shane introduces the episode by apologizing for the late drop — he tried to record the previous day but couldn't get out of bed after attending the NBA Finals, where he drank White Claws in the van on the way to the arena. Matt is out doing shows in Fort Wayne, Indiana, so Lemaire Lee steps in as guest host. Before any recording begins, Lemaire barges into the kitchen, kills Shane's peaceful hummingbird documentary, throws on a Lego YouTube video, and walks back out to check on his sausages on the grill. Shane marvels at Lemaire's unusually good mood — 'I've never seen him this happy' — and the cast speculates that a rare bout of happiness will inevitably turn into whiskey-fueled frustration by nightfall.
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Lemaire describes a sprawling YouTube investigation into Bricks and Minifigs, a Lego resale franchise in Utah, which allegedly held onto a father-and-son collection worth $200,000 and refused to return it even after the dad recovered from illness. [1] — Lemaire Lee "Mormon Mafia controls Lego reselling: Lemaire alleges that a Mormon network — involving Bricks and Minifigs owners, local cops, and the bro…" 05:50 The YouTuber covering the story tried every legal avenue — creating an infringing company to provoke a LEGO lawsuit, running a legal lottery, starting a GoFundMe — and got arrested each time while the cops sided with the reseller. The wild twist: everyone involved is Mormon, from the store owners to the police, leading Lemaire to coin the term 'Mormon Mafia.' Shane and Charles are both baffled and delighted, with Charles noting it makes perfect sense given the setting — 'They're all Mormon, they're in Utah.' Lemaire believes the reseller is paying police kickbacks to block victims from recovering their property, and says he's currently on Part 2 of the documentary series, waiting for Part 3. When Charles asks if Lemaire would go to Utah to investigate, Lemaire flatly refuses: 'They would have shot me.'
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Someone brings up a newly leaked Diddy video, which Shane describes as disturbing — Diddy hunched over in a red-lit hotel room while a woman performs sex acts nearby. The crew discusses the physique, the psychology, and whether Diddy was molested as a child to explain his behavior. Shane then notices the red light bulb connection and reveals that Lemaire uses Alexa to turn his lights red, which triggers a wide-ranging debate: is colored ambient lighting a Black cultural thing, a white gamer thing, or a Korean esports invention? Lemaire insists he's an outlier in Black culture with his anime and red-light-bulb combo, and argues the LED strip light was a white-gamer innovation that others appropriated. Nobody wins the argument, but the crew lands on 'Koreans invented gaming, white guys innovated it, and everybody copied the colored lights.'
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Shane pivots to the BetterHelp ad read, riffing that Lemaire is the perfect example of someone who needs therapy — 'I wish the guy would fucking relax' — before delivering the standard pitch: BetterHelp is one of the biggest online therapy platforms, can match you with a professional therapist, and is offering 10% off at betterhelp.com/MSSP.
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Lemaire has been monitoring the news on AI wealth redistribution funds — a proposed system to tax AI companies and give the money to displaced workers — which kicks off a broader discussion about technological unemployment. Charles says he watched a documentary called 'How I Became an Apocaloptimist' in which major AI CEOs admitted they have no idea what their technology is going to do, and that everyone moving too fast creates planetary-scale risk. [1] — Charles Blyzniuk "AI CEOs publicly pessimistic about AI speed: A documentary called 'How I Became an Apocaloptimist' featured major AI CEOs expressing genuin…" 18:43 Lemaire adds that companies are quietly reversing AI decisions without telling anyone, yet the pace is still dangerously fast. Charles then pivots to 3D-printed house foundations replacing construction crews, and everyone wonders what Mexican construction workers will do with their time once they're automated away. Drone delivery gets piled on next: they'll malfunction, kick you in the groin, and fly off — and old people will be out there yelling at them like angry birds. The crew acknowledges there's no stopping it and moves on.
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Shane has been watching a YouTube channel called Midwest Safety with Charles, and they recount their favorite clip so far: a woman wanted on a warrant pulls into a gas station while on meth and gets immediately boxed in by three police vehicles. [1] — Shane Gillis "A woman on meth with a warrant gets boxed in by five cops at a gas station. They stab her tires, she escapes anyway, crashes later, hides u…" 25:03 Five cops converge on her car, demand she open the door, and within 20 seconds are punching the car and stabbing her tires. She somehow escapes, leads a chase, crashes the car, sprints through a neighborhood, and hides under a random person's porch — where she smokes crack before a police dog finds her. At the hospital, she trash-talks the arresting officer with lines like 'have fun working at Costco, you just lost your career, bitch,' and when told her bail is $500,000, she calmly replies, 'Yeah.' Shane is clearly a fan, and Lemaire points out she had swallowed 15 bags of fentanyl, meaning $500,000 in bail money is presumably inside her.
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The conversation meanders into a discussion of what criminal suspects might do in a cop car knowing they're about to go to jail. Lemaire suggests 'thigh rubbing it out' as a last resort — tucking and squeezing to achieve self-gratification without using hands. Charles has never heard of this technique. As the hosts probe further, Lemaire confirms he practiced this method regularly from approximately ages 22 to 25, and that he performed it kneeling behind his grandmother's couch so she wouldn't see. [1] — Lemaire Lee "From ages 22 to 25, Lemaire Lee masturbated exclusively using his thighs — no hands required. The hosts are equally horrified and impressed…" 21:36 Shane immediately declares Lemaire the undisputed 'new leader in the clubhouse' for most outrageous MSSP confession, and the cast spends several minutes trying to process what they've just been told. Lemaire insists he is not currently thigh rubbing during the recording session, but acknowledges he cannot be trusted.
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With the NBA Finals underway between the New York Knicks and San Antonio Spurs, the crew recaps Game 1. Charles admits he came around on the Knicks after watching Karl-Anthony Towns effectively neutralize Victor Wembanyama for three quarters — harder than anyone managed all postseason. Shane praises Jalen Brunson and James Harden, and notes KAT had a great game. The crew also recaps a fan who ran onto the court mid-play and narrowly avoided being trampled by players racing downcourt. Shane reveals he's trying to attend every Finals game, including the upcoming one in New York, and jokes that he's becoming the equivalent of an old-money superfan with perfect attendance.
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Lemaire's fashion choices spark a fashion tangent — someone accuses him of cutting the sleeves off a deep-V shirt, which he denies. This leads to a tribute to mutual friend Satoya's unbeatable personal style: 'long tees, scarves, the drip.' Shane then brings up BZMZ, a friend from Philadelphia who somehow always shows up with hyper-specific celebrity gossip ('Sato got banned from Helium') despite none of it being verifiable. Shane misses him dearly and recounts the time the crew spotted a Bud Bandit billboard outside a Philadelphia smoke shop that looked exactly like BZMZ, to his extreme annoyance. The crew fondly looks forward to reuniting in Philly.
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The episode pauses for two sponsor segments. First, a first-person Tecovas read pitches handcrafted Western boots and sandals, emphasizing their comfort straight out of the box and their versatility for weddings, barbecues, and concerts — with 10% off at tacovas.com/mattandshane. Second, a Rocket Money read frames the app as the solution for people who don't want to think about budgeting, specifically targeting impulse spending on coffee and unwanted subscriptions — sign up at rocketmoney.com/msp.
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The crew fondly reminisces about Bonnar's bar in Philadelphia. The highlights of the regular cast of characters: an old pirate-looking man who shows up every day, and a guy who dyed his dog's hair purple and trained the dog to drink Guinness from a bowl at the bar. Shane is certain he will die happy in that bar. Then the conversation turns to their mutual friend Conman, who apparently transforms into a wild animal every time he visits Bonnar's — his belly sticks out, he gains the energy of a man who has had 20 drinks, and on one visit he spent 20 minutes watching a decade-old football game on his phone, believing it was live, before someone pointed it out.
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Shane transitions into the PrizePicks 'More or Less Playoff Edition' segment, framed around the NBA Finals. He asks Lemaire and the crew who's looking sharp and who deserves more attention. Lemaire picks KAT as his sharp player and picks De'Aaron Fox — his favorite NBA player — as the one not getting enough attention, despite Fox not being in the Finals. Shane picks Wembanyama as due for a breakout game. The segment closes with the promo code DRENCHED for $50 in lineup credits after a $5 first play.
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Lemaire announces he is the proud owner of a $15 cop shirt purchased from comedian Amy Shanker, with vague plans to set up his phone and 'see what happens.' Shane immediately starts brainstorming: show up at a domestic dispute and punch the woman too, impersonate a Navy SEAL at food trucks to eat for free, or do 'get ready with me' content in cop gear. Lemaire puts on an officer's hat provided by someone on set and agrees it looks official. [1] — Lemaire Lee "Lemaire bought a $15 cop shirt from a comedian friend and has vague plans to set up his phone and 'see what happens.' Shane suggests the pe…" 44:25 The concept evolves from a single sketch to an ongoing series, with Shane drawing parallels to Chris Dorner — the LAPD officer who went on a fugitive spree in 2013 before being obliterated in a cabin standoff. Lemaire says it all started because he was watching Reno 911 one day and thought: why don't I just do this show? Shane finds this an absolutely valid life plan.
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Lemaire brings up his observation that police lights sometimes appear purple in the middle, where the red and blue mix. Shane suggests this means Lemaire is 'seeing the fractals,' implying he's high. The crew jokes that purple police cars must respond to the most extreme crimes. The conversation then shifts to viral videos of people giving weapons to homeless people — Shane watched one where a creator unwrapped a machete for a man with a shopping cart, who immediately started swinging it with expert precision. Another homeless man in a video had the option of $20 cash or a gift (the machete) and wisely took the $20. Shane calls it a bad idea wrapped in a great video.
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A nearby interaction with a homeless man prompts Charles to recall a more personal story: one of his childhood best friends, who sat high in his MySpace top 8, is now homeless in Austin. The guy had a decent upbringing but chose to 'thug for fun,' and Charles hasn't seen him since a chance encounter on the street with mutual friend Sean. The bittersweet anecdote leads Shane to muse that he'd love to bring back MySpace top 8 as a social currency for adults — imagine being a grown man upset about not being in someone's top 8. Lemaire then drops the observation of the episode: pinned phone contacts are literally the same thing, and you're only allowed nine of them. Shane checks his: it's Matt Soder, O'Connor, Billy McCusker, McKeever.
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Shane has been marveling all episode at Nate's unusual happiness and finally pins down the cause: Nate went for a jog on Monday and is still coasting on the residual endorphin high. Shane jokes he's working off a 'residual jog from 2018.' Lemaire then confesses his own athletic failure: he drove to 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu, walked in, saw that none of his regular training partners were there, assessed that the strangers present would kill him, and turned around and walked straight back out without doing a single minute of training. Shane suggests that in this situation, the thigh rub would have been the perfect defensive weapon — full mount, thigh rub, instant psychological victory.
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Shane elaborates on his humiliating hangover day: he and friends drank White Claws in the van on the way to the NBA Finals, which always destroys him the next morning. He came home, went to his room, and couldn't emerge while the crew arrived, set up equipment, waited, and eventually left without recording. Charles asks what the Surge variant is, and the group establishes it's approximately 8% ABV — twice the alcohol of a normal White Claw. Shane immediately declares 'that's going straight to bums' and wonders why anyone else would drink it. The crew also discusses videos of homeless people getting weapons gifted to them before circling back to the AI and jobs conversation.
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Lemaire starts quietly watching the news again and gets drawn into a discussion about the White House UFC event — Shane is tempted to attend but worries about getting hit by a stray missile. This somehow pivots into Lemaire's firm conviction that Donald Trump is publicly farting on camera and everyone around him is in denial. [1] — Lemaire Lee "Lemaire Lee is convinced there are multiple videos of Trump farting, that he holds court away from people specifically to fart freely, and …" 1:01:40 He coins the nickname 'Sleepy Dommy' and riffs that Trump sits away from his team on a throne-like chair so he can fart freely. Shane suggests the outdoor setting of the White House UFC event is specifically to ventilate Trump's McDonald's-fueled flatulence. The crew then builds out a hypothetical debate strategy: mid-speech, accuse your opponent of farting, watch them melt. Shane tells Lemaire he should run for office as the only non-farting candidate. Lemaire is in. The segment collapses into a long fart-accusation riff before Shane wraps it up.
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Shane recalls a legendary fart denial from when he lived with Chris O'Connell in Queens — Shane farted silently on the couch and O'Connell was across the room in one second, but Shane straight-up lied about it. Shane could not believe the fart crossed the room that fast. He then gets nostalgic about the broader Queens apartment era: Tommy would come home hammered, put on a VR helmet, and he and Chris would be shouting at each other from different rooms about video game ammo. Shane found an old video of Tommy being confronted by someone asking for an autograph and responding with 'God forbid people love you' — at 11 AM, visibly drunk. The crew agrees it was a simpler, funnier time.
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Shane declares the episode a success — 'I think we did it again, we killed it' — and turns to Lemaire and Charles to close things out. Lemaire plugs shows in Charlottesville on June 25th and Columbia, South Carolina on June 27th, with more East Coast dates in August available at lemairelee.fun, and shouts out his video game podcast with brother Jabri, Tenacious Lee Brothers. Nate (Guard Dog) mentions Shane's Charleston shows. The episode then transitions to a Tremfya pharmaceutical ad (prescription treatment for Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis) and a Wayfair outdoor furniture ad before the full episode closes out at the 70-minute mark.
- Bricks and Minifigs
- A franchise chain of Lego resale stores in the United States that buys and resells used Lego sets; central to the alleged Utah theft story Lemaire describes.
- Mormon Mafia
- A colloquial term Lemaire uses to describe an alleged informal network of Mormon community members — including business owners and police — who reportedly cooperate to protect each other's interests in Utah.
- Minifig
- Short for 'mini-figure,' the small plastic humanoid characters sold with Lego sets; they can have significant standalone resale value separate from the larger set.
- Valor stealing
- Also known as stolen valor; the act of falsely claiming military service or wearing military insignia without having earned it, which is illegal under federal law in the US.
- 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu
- A no-gi Brazilian jiu-jitsu system developed by Eddie Bravo, known for its unorthodox rubber guard positions; Lemaire Lee attempted to attend a class at one of its gyms.
- Thigh rub
- As described by Lemaire Lee on the podcast: a method of self-gratification performed without hands by tucking and squeezing the thighs together.
- Apocaloptimist
- A portmanteau of 'apocalypse' and 'optimist,' referring to someone who acknowledges catastrophic risks (like unchecked AI) while trying to maintain a positive outlook; used in the title of a documentary Charles references.
- Corporatocracy
- A political system in which corporations exert dominant control over government and policy decisions; Lemaire uses it to describe the current relationship between tech companies and political power.
- GoFundMe
- A popular crowdfunding platform used to raise money for personal causes; the YouTuber in the Lego story was arrested for running one in Utah.
- Surge (White Claw)
- A higher-alcohol variant of the White Claw hard seltzer brand, at approximately 8% ABV — roughly double the standard White Claw's alcohol content.
- Full mount
- A dominant ground-control position in grappling and jiu-jitsu in which one fighter sits on top of their opponent's torso, pinning them to the ground.
- Chris Dorner
- A former LAPD officer who in 2013 went on a fugitive killing spree targeting law enforcement and their families before dying in a standoff; referenced in the cop-shirt discussion.
- residual
- Remaining or leftover from a prior cause; Shane uses it humorously — 'residual jog' — to describe still feeling the mood benefits of a single run from days (or years) ago.
- PrizePicks
- A daily fantasy sports platform and preferred NBA partner where users predict player stat totals (more or less) rather than picking winners; sponsored segment in this episode.
- Reno 911
- A Comedy Central mockumentary series (2003–2009) parodying local law enforcement in Reno, Nevada; Lemaire cites it as inspiration for his cop-shirt content idea.
Chapter 3 · 03:13
The Mormon Mafia Is Stealing People's Legos
Lemaire describes a sprawling YouTube investigation into Bricks and Minifigs, a Lego resale franchise in Utah, which allegedly held onto a father-and-son collection worth $200,000 and refused to return it even after the dad recovered from illness. [1] — Lemaire Lee "Mormon Mafia controls Lego reselling: Lemaire alleges that a Mormon network — involving Bricks and Minifigs owners, local cops, and the bro…" 05:50 The YouTuber covering the story tried every legal avenue — creating an infringing company to provoke a LEGO lawsuit, running a legal lottery, starting a GoFundMe — and got arrested each time while the cops sided with the reseller. The wild twist: everyone involved is Mormon, from the store owners to the police, leading Lemaire to coin the term 'Mormon Mafia.' Shane and Charles are both baffled and delighted, with Charles noting it makes perfect sense given the setting — 'They're all Mormon, they're in Utah.' Lemaire believes the reseller is paying police kickbacks to block victims from recovering their property, and says he's currently on Part 2 of the documentary series, waiting for Part 3. When Charles asks if Lemaire would go to Utah to investigate, Lemaire flatly refuses: 'They would have shot me.'
Claims made here
Multiple people have attempted to recover their Legos from Bricks and Minifigs and failed, suggesting a pattern of systemic theft.
Bricks and Minifigs is suspected of paying kickbacks to local police to prevent theft victims from getting their Legos back.
The Lego collection at the center of the Bricks and Minifigs dispute is worth $200,000.
A YouTuber uncovering a Lego theft by Utah-based Bricks and Minifigs keeps getting arrested despite doing everything legally. The alleged Mormon Mafia, made up of Lego resellers and local police, is systematically blocking anyone from reclaiming their property.
The YouTube investigator exposing the Lego scam was arrested in Utah for starting a GoFundMe, with police siding with the alleged wrongdoers.
Lemaire alleges that a Mormon network — involving Bricks and Minifigs owners, local cops, and the broader community — is systematically preventing people from reclaiming their Legos.
The Lego collection at the center of the Bricks and Minifigs dispute was reportedly worth $200,000, consisting of rare sets that can no longer be purchased.
Lemaire casually admits to telling Alexa to 'turn the sun red' for his room. This spirals into a heated cultural debate about who invented colored ambient lighting — Black people, white gamers, or Koreans — with no clear winner.
Chapter 5 · 18:00
BetterHelp Ad Read
Shane pivots to the BetterHelp ad read, riffing that Lemaire is the perfect example of someone who needs therapy — 'I wish the guy would fucking relax' — before delivering the standard pitch: BetterHelp is one of the biggest online therapy platforms, can match you with a professional therapist, and is offering 10% off at betterhelp.com/MSSP.
AI CEOs in a documentary admit they genuinely don't understand their own technology's trajectory. Meanwhile, companies are quietly reversing AI decisions while still moving dangerously fast — and nobody has a plan for the jobs being lost.
Chapter 6 · 18:13
AI Is Going to Take All the Jobs (And Nobody Knows Why)
Lemaire has been monitoring the news on AI wealth redistribution funds — a proposed system to tax AI companies and give the money to displaced workers — which kicks off a broader discussion about technological unemployment. Charles says he watched a documentary called 'How I Became an Apocaloptimist' in which major AI CEOs admitted they have no idea what their technology is going to do, and that everyone moving too fast creates planetary-scale risk. [1] — Charles Blyzniuk "AI CEOs publicly pessimistic about AI speed: A documentary called 'How I Became an Apocaloptimist' featured major AI CEOs expressing genuin…" 18:43 Lemaire adds that companies are quietly reversing AI decisions without telling anyone, yet the pace is still dangerously fast. Charles then pivots to 3D-printed house foundations replacing construction crews, and everyone wonders what Mexican construction workers will do with their time once they're automated away. Drone delivery gets piled on next: they'll malfunction, kick you in the groin, and fly off — and old people will be out there yelling at them like angry birds. The crew acknowledges there's no stopping it and moves on.
Claims made here
Major AI CEOs admitted in a documentary that they genuinely do not know what is happening with AI development.
Companies are quietly and secretly reversing their AI decisions without making public announcements.
3D printing technology is now capable of printing the foundations of houses, threatening construction jobs.
A documentary called 'How I Became an Apocaloptimist' featured major AI CEOs expressing genuine uncertainty and pessimism about how fast AI is advancing.
Lemaire Lee noted news reports that companies are stealthily walking back AI initiatives without publicly announcing it, yet still moving dangerously fast overall.
Charles Blyzniuk pointed out that 3D printing of house foundations will put traditional construction workers out of work, leading to a wave of unemployment.
Chapter 7 · 21:35
The Meth Lady Gas Station Chase (Midwest Safety Segment)
Shane has been watching a YouTube channel called Midwest Safety with Charles, and they recount their favorite clip so far: a woman wanted on a warrant pulls into a gas station while on meth and gets immediately boxed in by three police vehicles. [1] — Shane Gillis "A woman on meth with a warrant gets boxed in by five cops at a gas station. They stab her tires, she escapes anyway, crashes later, hides u…" 25:03 Five cops converge on her car, demand she open the door, and within 20 seconds are punching the car and stabbing her tires. She somehow escapes, leads a chase, crashes the car, sprints through a neighborhood, and hides under a random person's porch — where she smokes crack before a police dog finds her. At the hospital, she trash-talks the arresting officer with lines like 'have fun working at Costco, you just lost your career, bitch,' and when told her bail is $500,000, she calmly replies, 'Yeah.' Shane is clearly a fan, and Lemaire points out she had swallowed 15 bags of fentanyl, meaning $500,000 in bail money is presumably inside her.
From ages 22 to 25, Lemaire Lee masturbated exclusively using his thighs — no hands required. The hosts are equally horrified and impressed, and Shane correctly notes this is a new all-time record for the podcast.
Lemaire Lee revealed he practiced 'thigh rubbing' — masturbating without hands by tucking and squeezing his thighs — from roughly ages 22 to 25.
A woman on meth with a warrant gets boxed in by five cops at a gas station. They stab her tires, she escapes anyway, crashes later, hides under a porch smoking crack, and then talks absolute trash to a cop at the hospital. Shane is a fan.
Chapter 8 · 27:40
The Thigh Rub Revelation
The conversation meanders into a discussion of what criminal suspects might do in a cop car knowing they're about to go to jail. Lemaire suggests 'thigh rubbing it out' as a last resort — tucking and squeezing to achieve self-gratification without using hands. Charles has never heard of this technique. As the hosts probe further, Lemaire confirms he practiced this method regularly from approximately ages 22 to 25, and that he performed it kneeling behind his grandmother's couch so she wouldn't see. [1] — Lemaire Lee "From ages 22 to 25, Lemaire Lee masturbated exclusively using his thighs — no hands required. The hosts are equally horrified and impressed…" 21:36 Shane immediately declares Lemaire the undisputed 'new leader in the clubhouse' for most outrageous MSSP confession, and the cast spends several minutes trying to process what they've just been told. Lemaire insists he is not currently thigh rubbing during the recording session, but acknowledges he cannot be trusted.
Chapter 9 · 29:30
NBA Finals: KAT vs. Wemby, Knicks Appreciation
With the NBA Finals underway between the New York Knicks and San Antonio Spurs, the crew recaps Game 1. Charles admits he came around on the Knicks after watching Karl-Anthony Towns effectively neutralize Victor Wembanyama for three quarters — harder than anyone managed all postseason. Shane praises Jalen Brunson and James Harden, and notes KAT had a great game. The crew also recaps a fan who ran onto the court mid-play and narrowly avoided being trampled by players racing downcourt. Shane reveals he's trying to attend every Finals game, including the upcoming one in New York, and jokes that he's becoming the equivalent of an old-money superfan with perfect attendance.
Karl-Anthony Towns made it harder for Victor Wembanyama in Game 1 of the NBA Finals than any defender had all playoffs. Charles Blyzniuk says he came around on the Knicks after watching KAT's defensive performance.
Chapter 11 · 34:30
Sponsor Break: Tacovas & Rocket Money
The episode pauses for two sponsor segments. First, a first-person Tecovas read pitches handcrafted Western boots and sandals, emphasizing their comfort straight out of the box and their versatility for weddings, barbecues, and concerts — with 10% off at tacovas.com/mattandshane. Second, a Rocket Money read frames the app as the solution for people who don't want to think about budgeting, specifically targeting impulse spending on coffee and unwanted subscriptions — sign up at rocketmoney.com/msp.
Shane Gillis attended multiple NBA Finals games between the Knicks and Spurs, including going to New York for another game after already attending one in person.
Chapter 13 · 39:40
PrizePicks Ad Read: NBA Finals Picks
Shane transitions into the PrizePicks 'More or Less Playoff Edition' segment, framed around the NBA Finals. He asks Lemaire and the crew who's looking sharp and who deserves more attention. Lemaire picks KAT as his sharp player and picks De'Aaron Fox — his favorite NBA player — as the one not getting enough attention, despite Fox not being in the Finals. Shane picks Wembanyama as due for a breakout game. The segment closes with the promo code DRENCHED for $50 in lineup credits after a $5 first play.
Claims made here
Conor McGregor's next fight is against Max Holloway.
Aaron Judge is currently injured with a stress fracture in his rib.
The crew discussed McGregor's return fight against Max Holloway, noting McGregor has ring rust while Holloway is in his prime.
Chapter 14 · 44:25
Lemaire's Cop Shirt Plan and Officer Lemaire Content Ideas
Lemaire announces he is the proud owner of a $15 cop shirt purchased from comedian Amy Shanker, with vague plans to set up his phone and 'see what happens.' Shane immediately starts brainstorming: show up at a domestic dispute and punch the woman too, impersonate a Navy SEAL at food trucks to eat for free, or do 'get ready with me' content in cop gear. Lemaire puts on an officer's hat provided by someone on set and agrees it looks official. [1] — Lemaire Lee "Lemaire bought a $15 cop shirt from a comedian friend and has vague plans to set up his phone and 'see what happens.' Shane suggests the pe…" 44:25 The concept evolves from a single sketch to an ongoing series, with Shane drawing parallels to Chris Dorner — the LAPD officer who went on a fugitive spree in 2013 before being obliterated in a cabin standoff. Lemaire says it all started because he was watching Reno 911 one day and thought: why don't I just do this show? Shane finds this an absolutely valid life plan.
Lemaire bought a $15 cop shirt from a comedian friend and has vague plans to set up his phone and 'see what happens.' Shane suggests the perfect scenario: Lemaire arrives at a domestic dispute and punches the woman too.
Charles Blyzniuk ran into a childhood friend who peaked in his MySpace top 8 but is now homeless in Austin. The guy had a decent upbringing but chose to 'thug for fun,' which eventually caught up with him.
Chapter 15 · 49:00
The Purple Cop Lights and Homeless Man with a Machete
Lemaire brings up his observation that police lights sometimes appear purple in the middle, where the red and blue mix. Shane suggests this means Lemaire is 'seeing the fractals,' implying he's high. The crew jokes that purple police cars must respond to the most extreme crimes. The conversation then shifts to viral videos of people giving weapons to homeless people — Shane watched one where a creator unwrapped a machete for a man with a shopping cart, who immediately started swinging it with expert precision. Another homeless man in a video had the option of $20 cash or a gift (the machete) and wisely took the $20. Shane calls it a bad idea wrapped in a great video.
Lemaire points out that everyone subconsciously recreates the MySpace top 8 through their pinned phone contacts, and you're only allowed to pin nine people. Shane immediately checks his and confirms the theory.
Chapter 16 · 52:10
MySpace Top 8, Homeless Friend, and Pinned Contacts
A nearby interaction with a homeless man prompts Charles to recall a more personal story: one of his childhood best friends, who sat high in his MySpace top 8, is now homeless in Austin. The guy had a decent upbringing but chose to 'thug for fun,' and Charles hasn't seen him since a chance encounter on the street with mutual friend Sean. The bittersweet anecdote leads Shane to muse that he'd love to bring back MySpace top 8 as a social currency for adults — imagine being a grown man upset about not being in someone's top 8. Lemaire then drops the observation of the episode: pinned phone contacts are literally the same thing, and you're only allowed nine of them. Shane checks his: it's Matt Soder, O'Connor, Billy McCusker, McKeever.
Lemaire showed up to 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu, saw none of his friends, decided the strangers would kill him, and turned around and walked straight back out. No mat time. No explanation.
Chapter 18 · 56:35
Shane's NBA Finals Hangover and White Claw Surge
Shane elaborates on his humiliating hangover day: he and friends drank White Claws in the van on the way to the NBA Finals, which always destroys him the next morning. He came home, went to his room, and couldn't emerge while the crew arrived, set up equipment, waited, and eventually left without recording. Charles asks what the Surge variant is, and the group establishes it's approximately 8% ABV — twice the alcohol of a normal White Claw. Shane immediately declares 'that's going straight to bums' and wonders why anyone else would drink it. The crew also discusses videos of homeless people getting weapons gifted to them before circling back to the AI and jobs conversation.
Claims made here
White Claw Surge hard seltzers are approximately 8% ABV, roughly double the standard White Claw formula.
Shane drank White Claws on the way to the NBA Finals and was so hungover he couldn't leave his room the next day, causing the crew to set up and then pack down without recording. Now Matt's out of town and Lemaire's filling in.
Shane Gillis admitted he was so hungover from drinking White Claws on the way to the NBA Finals that he couldn't get out of bed the next day and had to cancel recording.
The White Claw Surge variety is 8% ABV — double the standard formula — and the crew joked that it goes straight to homeless people.
Chapter 19 · 58:40
Trump Is Farting and Everyone's Pretending He's Not
Lemaire starts quietly watching the news again and gets drawn into a discussion about the White House UFC event — Shane is tempted to attend but worries about getting hit by a stray missile. This somehow pivots into Lemaire's firm conviction that Donald Trump is publicly farting on camera and everyone around him is in denial. [1] — Lemaire Lee "Lemaire Lee is convinced there are multiple videos of Trump farting, that he holds court away from people specifically to fart freely, and …" 1:01:40 He coins the nickname 'Sleepy Dommy' and riffs that Trump sits away from his team on a throne-like chair so he can fart freely. Shane suggests the outdoor setting of the White House UFC event is specifically to ventilate Trump's McDonald's-fueled flatulence. The crew then builds out a hypothetical debate strategy: mid-speech, accuse your opponent of farting, watch them melt. Shane tells Lemaire he should run for office as the only non-farting candidate. Lemaire is in. The segment collapses into a long fart-accusation riff before Shane wraps it up.
Claims made here
There are multiple publicly circulating videos of Donald Trump farting.
Lemaire Lee is convinced there are multiple videos of Trump farting, that he holds court away from people specifically to fart freely, and that his McDonald's diet is producing diabolical results. Shane suggests Lemaire run for office on a no-fart platform.
Lemaire Lee claimed there are multiple videos of Donald Trump farting publicly, and that the White House UFC event was held outdoors partly for ventilation.
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Co-host of the podcast who is absent this episode due to a show in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
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Referred to as 'Diddy' throughout; discussed in the context of a leaked video showing him in a hotel room.
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Referenced as 'Sleepy Dommy' in a running gag about alleged on-camera flatulence and his McDonald's diet.
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New York Knicks center praised for his defensive performance against Wembanyama in the NBA Finals.
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San Antonio Spurs center competing in the NBA Finals against the Knicks; discussed as being held down by KAT in Game 1.
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MMA fighter discussed in context of his upcoming return fight against Max Holloway, with concerns about ring rust.
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UFC featherweight described as being in his prime for his upcoming fight against returning Conor McGregor.
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Lego resale franchise in Utah at the center of an alleged theft and police corruption story Lemaire describes in detail.
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NBA team competing against the San Antonio Spurs in the NBA Finals discussed throughout the episode.
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NBA team facing the Knicks in the Finals; Lemaire and the crew discuss their chances in Game 2.
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Daily fantasy sports app and preferred NBA partner; paid sponsor of this episode.
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Online therapy platform; paid sponsor of this episode.
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Comedy Central mockumentary series cited by Lemaire as the inspiration for his cop-shirt content idea.
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State where the Bricks and Minifigs Lego scandal takes place; described as heavily Mormon-influenced, affecting local policing.
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Discussed as the venue for an upcoming UFC event on its lawn, which Shane is considering attending.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
The Lego collection at the center of the Bricks and Minifigs dispute is worth $200,000.
Multiple people have attempted to recover their Legos from Bricks and Minifigs and failed, suggesting a pattern of systemic theft.
The YouTube investigator covering the Lego theft was arrested in Utah for starting a GoFundMe.
Bricks and Minifigs is suspected of paying kickbacks to local police to prevent theft victims from getting their Legos back.
Major AI CEOs admitted in a documentary that they genuinely do not know what is happening with AI development.
Companies are quietly and secretly reversing their AI decisions without making public announcements.
White Claw Surge hard seltzers are approximately 8% ABV, roughly double the standard White Claw formula.
3D printing technology is now capable of printing the foundations of houses, threatening construction jobs.
Aaron Judge is currently injured with a stress fracture in his rib.
There are multiple publicly circulating videos of Donald Trump farting.
The UFC event at the White House is scheduled for the White House lawn and is currently being built.
Conor McGregor's next fight is against Max Holloway.