Bill Belichick met his 26-year-old girlfriend on a plane when she was doing homework from her philosophy textbook — and he signed it for her.
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Ep 623 - The Good Guy Weed (feat. Lemaire Lee)
Bill Belichick met his 26-year-old girlfriend on a plane when she was doing homework from her philosophy textbook — and he signed it for her.
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Matt McCusker, Shane Gillis, and guest Lemaire Lee kick off with World Cup predictions and Jackass memories before spending a surprisingly lengthy stretch debating whether Bill Belichick's relationship with a 26-year-old is admirable, pathetic, or just weird[1]— Shane Gillis"Shane is deep in what the guys call the 'good guy weed' headspace: convinced that Bill Belichick's young girlfriend is philosophically wron…"20:50. Shane's "virtue-pilled" take sparks a philosophical detour into Socrates, itchy butts, and the nature of pleasure[2]— Shane Gillis"When you hit 70, your fear of death and your horniness don't fight each other — they fuse into the single most powerful force known to man.…"17:20. The episode winds down with Lemaire revealing his secret Temu unboxing hustle, a discussion of heroin-user balance mechanics, and an extended riff on Lemaire's habit of holding in farts all day. Pure hang energy — no deep insights, just genuinely funny guys enjoying each other.
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Matt McCusker, Shane Gillis, and Lemaire Lee hang out on the couch after hitting the 'good guy pack.' Topics include World Cup predictions, Jackass memories, an extended philosophical debate about Bill Belichick's relationship, Lemaire's secret Temu unboxing hustle, and the revelation that Lemaire holds all his farts in until he falls asleep.
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The episode opens mid-conversation, with Matt McCusker confessing he woke up inexplicably early and spent his morning playing NCAA Football for three hours before watching World Cup soccer. Shane calls this the 'money mindset.' The crew quickly dives into the 2026 World Cup, with Matt laying out the daunting bracket: for the US to win, they'd have to beat Belgium, Spain, France, and Argentina in sequence. Shane finds the whole scenario hilarious precisely because Americans don't really care about soccer. The conversation riffs on Argentina's reportedly notorious reputation in South America and which Axis powers have already been eliminated, landing on the satisfying note that Germany, Italy, and Japan are all out.
Prompted by Shane, the crew discusses Conor McGregor's upcoming fight, with Shawn confirming it will be against Max Holloway. Matt expresses excitement and notes McGregor will likely fight around 170 pounds — heavier than his best days. Shane asks about his physical condition and Matt gives the standard reaction: sheer disbelief at whatever McGregor is doing. The segment is brief but establishes the loose, channel-surfing conversational rhythm of the episode.
In a rare moment of self-reflection, Shane Gillis realizes that their podcast, which they record from a couch with zero production infrastructure, has more viewers than most local — and likely regional — news stations. He's genuinely struck by this. Matt confirms they've been bigger than local news since around 2017, which somehow feels both obvious and crazy to say out loud. They briefly imagine their own version of a news anchor segment before moving on, leaving the observation hanging in the air as a small, unexamined monument to how the media world has changed.
Shane throws out what he presents as a genuinely mind-blowing fact: oysters are still alive when you eat them, and the reason they're hard to pry open is because the oyster is actively clenching shut in self-defense. The crew reacts with a mix of disgust and delight. Lemaire asks how oysters procreate, and the group starts looking it up in real time, learning that oysters simply fire their eggs and sperm into the water simultaneously for free-swimming larvae. Shane thinks this is an ideal reproductive strategy. The conversation spirals into increasingly absurd territory involving oyster milk, bull semen, and taurine — setting the tone for the rest of the episode.[1]— Shane Gillis"Oysters are alive when you slurp them down. They actively resist being opened — the reason it's hard to pry the shell is the oyster holding…"04:57
From oysters, the crew transitions to bull biology, with Lemaire suggesting that taurine — the Red Bull ingredient — might be extracted from bulls in a very specific way. Matt and Shane are skeptical of the etymology but intrigued. The mention of a bull leads to Lemaire describing a video of Bert Kreischer getting hit by one. Matt then recounts the new Jackass movie, specifically the finale: every cast member drinks a colonoscopy laxative, wraps their legs in Saran Wrap, and plays Twister. The results are exactly as catastrophic as you'd imagine. Matt gets unexpectedly emotional talking about the Jackass franchise's ending, and Lemaire reveals that Jackass 3's tribute to Ryan Dunn makes him cry every single time.
The mere mention of Bam Margera skating again lights Shane up. He calls it Bam's 'victory over his demons' and says the 13-year-old version of him goes absolutely wild at the sight. Matt joins in, reminiscing about spotting Bam's purple Lamborghini in West Chester when he was a kid. Lemaire then casually reveals he used to work at the Burger King near the Jackass crew's stomping grounds from 2008 to about 2024, and that Wee Man would regularly come through the drive-through with customized pedal extensions. He also met a Jackass member who famously hated mustard — and Lemaire would always offer him mustard, just for the bit. The segment has real warmth for a group of guys who clearly grew up idolizing these people.
From Jackass, the conversation drifts to what it must be like to be a 50-year-old R&B singer still writing about women, or a metal musician whose rage has been replaced by contentment. Lemaire notes the inherent sadness in still singing about physical desire at that age. But Shane counters with a philosophical insight he delivers with the confidence of a man discovering gravity: at a certain age, the fear of death and a man's horniness don't compete — they merge. The result is an overwhelming, unstoppable force. The observation is the spiritual ancestor of the extended Belichick debate that follows.[1]— Shane Gillis"When you hit 70, your fear of death and your horniness don't fight each other — they fuse into the single most powerful force known to man.…"17:20
The Bill Belichick relationship debate starts as a quick aside and expands into a 15-minute philosophical slow-burn. Shane, apparently affected by what the group calls the 'good guy weed' or 'virtue pack,' finds himself genuinely uncomfortable with the public nature of the situation. He's not against Belichick having sex — he's against the Instagram photos, the kink of being seen. Matt thinks Shane is being puritanical and invoking a double standard, while Lemaire cheerfully suggests Belichick might be sleeping with her friends too and definitely has the 'Bluetooth on deck.' Shane escalates by invoking Socrates's itchy butt thought experiment: if the itch remains after every scratch, is that truly pleasure? The debate swings back and forth, with the group eventually landing on the idea that Belichick genuinely doesn't care what anyone thinks — which might actually be the most admirable thing about him.[1]— Shane Gillis"Shane is deep in what the guys call the 'good guy weed' headspace: convinced that Bill Belichick's young girlfriend is philosophically wron…"20:50[2]— Shane Gillis"I think your fear of death and your horniness just merge and they just combine into like the most powerful force."17:29
The sponsor block covers Vuori (20% off at viore.com/mssp), Mint Mobile ($15/month unlimited wireless at mintmobile.com/drenched), and BetterHelp (10% off at betterhelp.com/MSSP). The BetterHelp read is the highlight: Shane cites the company's 2026 State of the Stigma report — 85% of Americans believe support is wise, 74% say society discourages it — before launching into a deadpan fictional personal story about begging his parents to send him to conversion camp as a child so a priest could 'make him like girls again.' His parents refused. He went to camp. It worked. Nothing should stop you from getting help.
Shane rattles off Matt's upcoming tour stops: San Jose (August 7th and 8th), Spokane (August 13th-14th), and then a fall run through Portland, Boston, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Atlanta, Chattanooga, and more, running through December 19th. Matt then notes that Shane has new tickets available at Lincoln Financial Field on July 17th following a stage reconfiguration, plus Charleston on August 8th. The segment is brief, functional, and delivered with the energy of men who are still high.
From the Belichick debate, the conversation wanders into urban legends and superstitions. Shane rants about the genre of online content that traces every modern custom to ancient pagan witchcraft — birthday candles, knock on wood — and frames them as malevolent rituals. Matt confirms that 'knock on wood' is not a summoning spell but rather traces to a children's tag game from the 1700s or 1800s where touching wood meant you were safe. Lemaire looks up the '10% of the brain' myth and confirms it is fully debunked — humans use their entire brain. The group then speculates that if you removed a piece of someone's brain, it would be a very bad time.
The BlueChew Gold read introduces the product's novel angle: unlike a standard ED pill, it combines blood-flow ingredients with two ingredients for 'mental arousal and connection,' because Shane observes, sex is not just about performing — it's about actually wanting to. Promo code DRENCHED gets you a free third month when you buy two, plus 10% off and free overnight shipping. The Rocket Money read follows: a personal finance app that tracks spending, cancels subscriptions, and lowers bills. Shane confesses that after having kids, he realized how much money he was hemorrhaging on coffee runs. Both reads are delivered conversationally with the occasional tangent.
Just when the Belichick debate seems to be winding down, Shawn drops the actual meet-cute story and it silences the room. In 2021, Belichick found himself seated next to a Bridgewater State University student who was doing philosophy homework on the plane. He chatted her up about deductive logic, signed her textbook with 'Thanks for giving me a course in logic!', and they kept in touch. By 2023, when she was approximately 24 or 25, they were dating. The group erupts. Lemaire suggests she immediately took the signed book to her dad. Shane, suddenly converted, announces that 26 is different and he might have been too puritanical. Matt says it was always fine.[1]— Shawn Gardini"In 2021, Belichick sat next to a Bridgewater State University student on a plane who was doing homework from a philosophy textbook. He chat…"49:38
Lemaire Lee reports back from a recent trip to Charlottesville, Virginia, which he expected to retain some of its aggressive Southern energy given its association with the 2017 Unite the Right rally. Instead, he found a mellow, bookstore-filled college town, so devoid of GameStops and guy stores that he got genuinely annoyed. A local told him tiki torches are still banned in the city — almost a decade after the rally. Shane and Matt riff on this as an appropriate penalty, though they question whether you can legally ban the sale of a garden accessory. Lemaire notes that the march's whole premise was about being 'replaced,' and gestures at the bookstores as evidence that, in some narrow retail sense, they were.
Shane reminisces about a trip to Minneapolis in the wake of George Floyd, imagining how white locals must have felt watching news about a Somali pirate scheme unfold. Matt then mentions he's seen heroin users in Austin for the first time — doing the full lean on a corner. This launches a group inquiry into the biomechanics of the opioid lean: how do people remain upright while bent at a 90-degree angle on a slanted sidewalk? Shawn looks it up and reports that their central nervous system essentially enters sleep mode — still running, but at minimum activity. Shane half-seriously wonders whether heroin might actually improve your balance at the right dose. The last remaining neuron, they conclude, is purely dedicated to not falling and embarrassing yourself.[1]— Matt McCusker"The guys puzzle over how heroin users can stand bent at 90-degree angles on a slanted sidewalk without falling. The answer, loosely: their …"57:36
Matt notices a new Sopranos painting hanging in Lemaire's corner of the podcast setup, which opens a Pandora's box of questions about LED strips from Temu, a mysterious mini MP3 player, a mushroom-shaped speaker, and what appears to be a fully operational home studio. After 500 questions, Lemaire finally admits the truth: he is making Temu unboxing videos in exchange for merchandise credits and free products. He hasn't posted anything yet. The first unboxing was apparently done at a professional studio run by a friend named Sky, involving a Super Mario Galaxy tin full of Japanese candy and a separate order from a Japanese grocery store. The crew is delighted. Shane immediately suggests he add nonstop farting to the format.[1]— Lemaire Lee"After 500 questions, the crew finally discovers why Lemaire has LED strips, an MP3 player, and a mini studio setup: he's doing Temu unboxin…"1:04:30
What starts as a throwaway suggestion about fart-themed unboxing content spirals into one of the episode's best extended bits. Lemaire Lee confesses that he simply doesn't fart during the day — not intentionally, not even when he needs to. He holds everything until he falls asleep, at which point he unconsciously releases it all. His partner has confirmed the nocturnal situation is 'Toot City.' Matt declares this physically impossible and estimates Lemaire is carrying 80 pounds of compressed gas in his body at all times. Shane questions what childhood trauma could cause this. Lemaire says farting makes him feel gross. The episode then naturally transitions into a warm, extended conversation about morning blowout routines, sleep apnea, and how Matt's dog knows he's awake by listening for his first morning fart. Peanut butter, milk, and Belichick's Thai food farts are also implicated.[1]— Lemaire Lee"Lemaire Lee does not fart during the day — not voluntarily, ever. He waits until he's asleep, at which point his partner confirms it become…"1:06:48
The episode drifts into philosophical and scientific territory as Shane describes a recent sleepless night spent contemplating the infinite quantity of physical matter in the universe. Empty infinite space is manageable. But infinite stuff — every object, every particle, going on forever — sent him into a full anxiety spiral he couldn't exit. Matt sympathizes; sometimes it bothers him sober. From there, Shane launches into a skeptical rant about astrophysicists and quantum physicists who, he argues, make unfalsifiable claims about particles existing in two places simultaneously and then deflect scrutiny by saying 'the math checks out' — while nobody can actually check the math. He wants a congressional audit. Matt mostly agrees they're probably making things up.[1]— Shane Gillis"Stoned and unable to sleep, Shane began cataloguing the infinite material universe in his head and could not stop. Every object, every part…"1:08:50
Matt and Shane bring the episode to a loose close with a final callback to the Bill Belichick tofu fart theory — imagining Belichick delivering a stinky morning blowout next to his 25-year-old girlfriend and immediately pivoting to thoughts about East Carolina's defense. Shane suggests people watch new episodes on Spotify. A lengthy pharmaceutical advertisement for Tremfya (a prescription biologic for Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis) plays out the remainder of the episode runtime.
Virtue-pilled
A neologism blending 'virtue' with the internet slang '-pilled' (meaning deeply convinced of something); here it means Shane is unusually, almost moralizingly focused on the concept of virtuous living.
Pederasty
A historical practice in ancient Greece involving an older man mentoring a younger male, often with a sexual dimension; institutionalized in Athenian culture and mentioned in the context of Socrates's era.
Taurine
An amino acid found naturally in the body and used as an ingredient in energy drinks like Red Bull; the guys debate (and fail to confirm) whether it derives from bull semen — it does not, though the name comes from Taurus (Latin for bull).
Deductive logic
A form of reasoning in which a conclusion necessarily follows from established premises; referenced as the subject of the philosophy textbook Belichick's girlfriend was reading on the plane.
Hemlock
A highly toxic plant whose extract was historically used as an execution method in ancient Greece; most famously used to kill the philosopher Socrates after his trial.
Hegemonic
Not used verbatim in the episode, but the concept of dominant cultural or social power is implied in the Charlottesville / Unite the Right discussion about who controls public space.
Central nervous system (CNS)
The brain and spinal cord; the system that coordinates all bodily activity. Referenced when explaining why opioid users can remain standing while appearing to be asleep — the CNS enters a reduced-activity 'sleep mode.'
Unite the Right
A far-right rally held in Charlottesville, Virginia in August 2017, notorious for participants carrying tiki torches; referenced when Lemaire discusses visiting Charlottesville and finding it transformed.
Morning blowout
Slang used on the podcast for the first large release of flatulence upon waking up, typically the result of gas accumulation during sleep.
IRL stream
A live video stream in which the streamer broadcasts their real-life environment and activities in real time, as opposed to streaming gameplay from a fixed location.
Quantum physics
The branch of physics dealing with phenomena at subatomic scales where particles can exist in multiple states simultaneously; Shane mockingly references its claims as unprovable and grant-funded nonsense.
Black tar heroin
A dark, sticky form of heroin typically produced in Mexico; mentioned in passing when discussing the presence of heroin users in Austin, Texas.
Asymmetry
Lack of equality or equivalence between two sides; used here in the context of a significant age gap in a relationship creating an inherent power imbalance.
Puritanical
Excessively strict or moralistic in one's attitudes, especially regarding pleasure or morality; Matt uses it to gently mock Shane for being overly judgmental about Belichick's love life.
Chapter 1 · 00:00
Intro: World Cup and Money Mindset
The episode opens mid-conversation, with Matt McCusker confessing he woke up inexplicably early and spent his morning playing NCAA Football for three hours before watching World Cup soccer. Shane calls this the 'money mindset.' The crew quickly dives into the 2026 World Cup, with Matt laying out the daunting bracket: for the US to win, they'd have to beat Belgium, Spain, France, and Argentina in sequence. Shane finds the whole scenario hilarious precisely because Americans don't really care about soccer. The conversation riffs on Argentina's reportedly notorious reputation in South America and which Axis powers have already been eliminated, landing on the satisfying note that Germany, Italy, and Japan are all out.
For the US to win the World Cup, they'd have to beat Belgium, then Spain, then France, then Argentina — in order. Matt delivers this information with the tone of a man reading a death sentence. Shane agrees it would be the funniest thing that ever happened.
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Chapter 3 · 04:08
Meta Moment: This Podcast Is Bigger Than Local News
In a rare moment of self-reflection, Shane Gillis realizes that their podcast, which they record from a couch with zero production infrastructure, has more viewers than most local — and likely regional — news stations. He's genuinely struck by this. Matt confirms they've been bigger than local news since around 2017, which somehow feels both obvious and crazy to say out loud. They briefly imagine their own version of a news anchor segment before moving on, leaving the observation hanging in the air as a small, unexamined monument to how the media world has changed.
Shane suddenly realizes that this little podcast they do on a couch has more viewers than local TV news stations — and has had more since 2017. Matt confirms it matter-of-factly. The whole local news infrastructure, the cameras, the anchors, the hubbub — all of it dwarfed by a few guys hanging out.
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Chapter 4 · 04:57
Oyster Biology Deep Dive
Shane throws out what he presents as a genuinely mind-blowing fact: oysters are still alive when you eat them, and the reason they're hard to pry open is because the oyster is actively clenching shut in self-defense. The crew reacts with a mix of disgust and delight. Lemaire asks how oysters procreate, and the group starts looking it up in real time, learning that oysters simply fire their eggs and sperm into the water simultaneously for free-swimming larvae. Shane thinks this is an ideal reproductive strategy. The conversation spirals into increasingly absurd territory involving oyster milk, bull semen, and taurine — setting the tone for the rest of the episode.[1]— Shane Gillis"Oysters are alive when you slurp them down. They actively resist being opened — the reason it's hard to pry the shell is the oyster holding…"04:57
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Oysters are still alive when eaten, and they actively hold their shells shut when being opened.
Shane Gillisno source cited
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Oysters reproduce by simultaneously releasing eggs and sperm into the water, which mix freely ('free swimming larvae').
Oysters are alive when you slurp them down. They actively resist being opened — the reason it's hard to pry the shell is the oyster holding it shut — and they can survive out of water for a surprisingly long time. Once you crack it open, that's the knockout blow.
From oysters, the crew transitions to bull biology, with Lemaire suggesting that taurine — the Red Bull ingredient — might be extracted from bulls in a very specific way. Matt and Shane are skeptical of the etymology but intrigued. The mention of a bull leads to Lemaire describing a video of Bert Kreischer getting hit by one. Matt then recounts the new Jackass movie, specifically the finale: every cast member drinks a colonoscopy laxative, wraps their legs in Saran Wrap, and plays Twister. The results are exactly as catastrophic as you'd imagine. Matt gets unexpectedly emotional talking about the Jackass franchise's ending, and Lemaire reveals that Jackass 3's tribute to Ryan Dunn makes him cry every single time.
The new Jackass movie saved the worst for last: the entire cast drank colonoscopy prep laxatives, wrapped their legs in Saran Wrap, and played Twister. Everyone started shitting and vomiting simultaneously. Matt can't believe he loved every second.
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Chapter 6 · 13:13
Bam Margera's Comeback and Jackass Royalty
The mere mention of Bam Margera skating again lights Shane up. He calls it Bam's 'victory over his demons' and says the 13-year-old version of him goes absolutely wild at the sight. Matt joins in, reminiscing about spotting Bam's purple Lamborghini in West Chester when he was a kid. Lemaire then casually reveals he used to work at the Burger King near the Jackass crew's stomping grounds from 2008 to about 2024, and that Wee Man would regularly come through the drive-through with customized pedal extensions. He also met a Jackass member who famously hated mustard — and Lemaire would always offer him mustard, just for the bit. The segment has real warmth for a group of guys who clearly grew up idolizing these people.
Bam Margera is back skateboarding, and Shane Gillis can't contain the joy. For Shane, seeing Bam on a board again isn't just nostalgia — it's proof that someone can conquer their demons. That 13-year-old inside him is screaming 'Bam's back!'
Aging Rock Stars, R&B Singers, and Old-Man Horniness
From Jackass, the conversation drifts to what it must be like to be a 50-year-old R&B singer still writing about women, or a metal musician whose rage has been replaced by contentment. Lemaire notes the inherent sadness in still singing about physical desire at that age. But Shane counters with a philosophical insight he delivers with the confidence of a man discovering gravity: at a certain age, the fear of death and a man's horniness don't compete — they merge. The result is an overwhelming, unstoppable force. The observation is the spiritual ancestor of the extended Belichick debate that follows.[1]— Shane Gillis"When you hit 70, your fear of death and your horniness don't fight each other — they fuse into the single most powerful force known to man.…"17:20
When you hit 70, your fear of death and your horniness don't fight each other — they fuse into the single most powerful force known to man. Shane says it like he just discovered gravity, and the room immediately knows it's true.
The Bill Belichick relationship debate starts as a quick aside and expands into a 15-minute philosophical slow-burn. Shane, apparently affected by what the group calls the 'good guy weed' or 'virtue pack,' finds himself genuinely uncomfortable with the public nature of the situation. He's not against Belichick having sex — he's against the Instagram photos, the kink of being seen. Matt thinks Shane is being puritanical and invoking a double standard, while Lemaire cheerfully suggests Belichick might be sleeping with her friends too and definitely has the 'Bluetooth on deck.' Shane escalates by invoking Socrates's itchy butt thought experiment: if the itch remains after every scratch, is that truly pleasure? The debate swings back and forth, with the group eventually landing on the idea that Belichick genuinely doesn't care what anyone thinks — which might actually be the most admirable thing about him.[1]— Shane Gillis"Shane is deep in what the guys call the 'good guy weed' headspace: convinced that Bill Belichick's young girlfriend is philosophically wron…"20:50[2]— Shane Gillis"I think your fear of death and your horniness just merge and they just combine into like the most powerful force."17:29
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Bill Belichick is 74 years old and is the head football coach at the University of North Carolina.
Bill Belichick is approximately 74 years old and is currently the head football coach at the University of North Carolina Tar Heels while dating a 26-year-old.
Shane is deep in what the guys call the 'good guy weed' headspace: convinced that Bill Belichick's young girlfriend is philosophically wrong. He invokes Socrates's itchy-butt thought experiment to argue that endlessly scratching a desire that never goes away is not true pleasure. Matt thinks he's losing his mind.
The sponsor block covers Vuori (20% off at viore.com/mssp), Mint Mobile ($15/month unlimited wireless at mintmobile.com/drenched), and BetterHelp (10% off at betterhelp.com/MSSP). The BetterHelp read is the highlight: Shane cites the company's 2026 State of the Stigma report — 85% of Americans believe support is wise, 74% say society discourages it — before launching into a deadpan fictional personal story about begging his parents to send him to conversion camp as a child so a priest could 'make him like girls again.' His parents refused. He went to camp. It worked. Nothing should stop you from getting help.
Claims made here
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BetterHelp's 2026 State of the Stigma report surveyed 2,000 Americans and found that 85% believe getting mental health support is wise.
Shane GillisBetterHelp 2026 State of the Stigma report
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BetterHelp's 2026 State of the Stigma report found that 74% of Americans say society discourages people from seeking mental health support.
Shane GillisBetterHelp 2026 State of the Stigma report
The same BetterHelp survey found that 74% of Americans say society discourages people from seeking mental health support, despite the majority believing it is wise.
Chapter 11 · 37:00
Superstitions, Paganism, and Urban Legends
From the Belichick debate, the conversation wanders into urban legends and superstitions. Shane rants about the genre of online content that traces every modern custom to ancient pagan witchcraft — birthday candles, knock on wood — and frames them as malevolent rituals. Matt confirms that 'knock on wood' is not a summoning spell but rather traces to a children's tag game from the 1700s or 1800s where touching wood meant you were safe. Lemaire looks up the '10% of the brain' myth and confirms it is fully debunked — humans use their entire brain. The group then speculates that if you removed a piece of someone's brain, it would be a very bad time.
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The claim that humans only use 10% of their brain is an urban legend; humans use 100% of their brain.
Lemaire Leeno source cited
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The expression 'knock on wood' (or 'touch wood') likely originates from a children's game of tag in the 1700s or 1800s where touching a tree served as a safe base.
The phrase 'knock on wood' (or 'touch wood') likely originates from a children's game of tag in the 1700s-1800s where touching a tree counted as a safe base.
Chapter 12 · 42:40
More Sponsor Reads: BlueChew Gold and Rocket Money
The BlueChew Gold read introduces the product's novel angle: unlike a standard ED pill, it combines blood-flow ingredients with two ingredients for 'mental arousal and connection,' because Shane observes, sex is not just about performing — it's about actually wanting to. Promo code DRENCHED gets you a free third month when you buy two, plus 10% off and free overnight shipping. The Rocket Money read follows: a personal finance app that tracks spending, cancels subscriptions, and lowers bills. Shane confesses that after having kids, he realized how much money he was hemorrhaging on coffee runs. Both reads are delivered conversationally with the occasional tangent.
Bill Belichick met his much-younger girlfriend in 2021 when she was reading a philosophy textbook on a plane; he chatted her up and signed it, writing 'Thanks for giving me a course in logic.'
Chapter 13 · 49:38
How Belichick Actually Met His Girlfriend
Just when the Belichick debate seems to be winding down, Shawn drops the actual meet-cute story and it silences the room. In 2021, Belichick found himself seated next to a Bridgewater State University student who was doing philosophy homework on the plane. He chatted her up about deductive logic, signed her textbook with 'Thanks for giving me a course in logic!', and they kept in touch. By 2023, when she was approximately 24 or 25, they were dating. The group erupts. Lemaire suggests she immediately took the signed book to her dad. Shane, suddenly converted, announces that 26 is different and he might have been too puritanical. Matt says it was always fine.[1]— Shawn Gardini"In 2021, Belichick sat next to a Bridgewater State University student on a plane who was doing homework from a philosophy textbook. He chat…"49:38
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Bill Belichick met his girlfriend in 2021 when she was a student at Bridgewater State University reading a philosophy textbook on a plane; he signed the book.
Shawn Gardinino source cited
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Bill Belichick and his girlfriend began dating in 2023, when she was approximately 24 or 25 years old.
Shawn Gardinino source cited
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There is no historical evidence that Socrates engaged in pedophilic acts, though pederasty was institutionalized in ancient Athenian mentorship culture.
In 2021, Belichick sat next to a Bridgewater State University student on a plane who was doing homework from a philosophy textbook. He chatted her up about deductive logic, signed the book with 'Thanks for giving me a course in logic!', and they eventually started dating in 2023. The entire crew goes silent, then erupts.
Lemaire Lee reports back from a recent trip to Charlottesville, Virginia, which he expected to retain some of its aggressive Southern energy given its association with the 2017 Unite the Right rally. Instead, he found a mellow, bookstore-filled college town, so devoid of GameStops and guy stores that he got genuinely annoyed. A local told him tiki torches are still banned in the city — almost a decade after the rally. Shane and Matt riff on this as an appropriate penalty, though they question whether you can legally ban the sale of a garden accessory. Lemaire notes that the march's whole premise was about being 'replaced,' and gestures at the bookstores as evidence that, in some narrow retail sense, they were.
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Tiki torches are still banned in Charlottesville, Virginia, nearly a decade after the 2017 Unite the Right rally.
Lemaire Lee visited Charlottesville (site of the 2017 Unite the Right rally) and was told by locals that tiki torches are still banned there, nearly a decade later.
Chapter 15 · 56:00
Minneapolis, Heroin Users in Austin, and the Science of the Lean
Shane reminisces about a trip to Minneapolis in the wake of George Floyd, imagining how white locals must have felt watching news about a Somali pirate scheme unfold. Matt then mentions he's seen heroin users in Austin for the first time — doing the full lean on a corner. This launches a group inquiry into the biomechanics of the opioid lean: how do people remain upright while bent at a 90-degree angle on a slanted sidewalk? Shawn looks it up and reports that their central nervous system essentially enters sleep mode — still running, but at minimum activity. Shane half-seriously wonders whether heroin might actually improve your balance at the right dose. The last remaining neuron, they conclude, is purely dedicated to not falling and embarrassing yourself.[1]— Matt McCusker"The guys puzzle over how heroin users can stand bent at 90-degree angles on a slanted sidewalk without falling. The answer, loosely: their …"57:36
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Heroin users can remain standing at extreme angles because their central nervous system enters a reduced-activity 'sleep mode' state.
The guys puzzle over how heroin users can stand bent at 90-degree angles on a slanted sidewalk without falling. The answer, loosely: their central nervous system is in sleep mode, still running but at minimum activity. The last firing neuron in a heroin-addled brain apparently says 'do not fall and embarrass yourself.'
The reason heroin users can lean at extreme angles without falling is that their central nervous system is essentially in 'sleep mode,' still running but at minimal activity.
Chapter 16 · 1:00:40
Lemaire's Home Studio and the Temu Unboxing Reveal
Matt notices a new Sopranos painting hanging in Lemaire's corner of the podcast setup, which opens a Pandora's box of questions about LED strips from Temu, a mysterious mini MP3 player, a mushroom-shaped speaker, and what appears to be a fully operational home studio. After 500 questions, Lemaire finally admits the truth: he is making Temu unboxing videos in exchange for merchandise credits and free products. He hasn't posted anything yet. The first unboxing was apparently done at a professional studio run by a friend named Sky, involving a Super Mario Galaxy tin full of Japanese candy and a separate order from a Japanese grocery store. The crew is delighted. Shane immediately suggests he add nonstop farting to the format.[1]— Lemaire Lee"After 500 questions, the crew finally discovers why Lemaire has LED strips, an MP3 player, and a mini studio setup: he's doing Temu unboxin…"1:04:30
After 500 questions, the crew finally discovers why Lemaire has LED strips, an MP3 player, and a mini studio setup: he's doing Temu unboxing videos to score free merchandise. He hasn't uploaded one yet. The box currently open contains a Super Mario Galaxy tin full of Japanese candy.
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Chapter 17 · 1:06:48
Lemaire Holds All His Farts Until He Sleeps
What starts as a throwaway suggestion about fart-themed unboxing content spirals into one of the episode's best extended bits. Lemaire Lee confesses that he simply doesn't fart during the day — not intentionally, not even when he needs to. He holds everything until he falls asleep, at which point he unconsciously releases it all. His partner has confirmed the nocturnal situation is 'Toot City.' Matt declares this physically impossible and estimates Lemaire is carrying 80 pounds of compressed gas in his body at all times. Shane questions what childhood trauma could cause this. Lemaire says farting makes him feel gross. The episode then naturally transitions into a warm, extended conversation about morning blowout routines, sleep apnea, and how Matt's dog knows he's awake by listening for his first morning fart. Peanut butter, milk, and Belichick's Thai food farts are also implicated.[1]— Lemaire Lee"Lemaire Lee does not fart during the day — not voluntarily, ever. He waits until he's asleep, at which point his partner confirms it become…"1:06:48
Lemaire Lee does not fart during the day — not voluntarily, ever. He waits until he's asleep, at which point his partner confirms it becomes 'Toot City.' Matt calculates he is probably 80 pounds of compressed gas. The bit escalates into a full discussion of morning blowouts and what peanut butter does to a man.
Lemaire Lee revealed he has a habit of holding in all his farts throughout the day, only releasing them unconsciously in his sleep, which his partner has confirmed.
Stoned and unable to sleep, Shane began cataloguing the infinite material universe in his head and could not stop. Every object, every particle, going on forever. The more he thought about it, the more it horrified him. Space being empty and infinite is fine — but all this STUFF?
The episode drifts into philosophical and scientific territory as Shane describes a recent sleepless night spent contemplating the infinite quantity of physical matter in the universe. Empty infinite space is manageable. But infinite stuff — every object, every particle, going on forever — sent him into a full anxiety spiral he couldn't exit. Matt sympathizes; sometimes it bothers him sober. From there, Shane launches into a skeptical rant about astrophysicists and quantum physicists who, he argues, make unfalsifiable claims about particles existing in two places simultaneously and then deflect scrutiny by saying 'the math checks out' — while nobody can actually check the math. He wants a congressional audit. Matt mostly agrees they're probably making things up.[1]— Shane Gillis"Stoned and unable to sleep, Shane began cataloguing the infinite material universe in his head and could not stop. Every object, every part…"1:08:50
In 2021, Belichick sat next to a Bridgewater State University student on a plane who was doing homework from a philosophy textbook. He chatted her up about deductive logic, signed the book with 'Thanks for giving me a course in logic!', and they eventually started dating in 2023. The entire crew goes silent, then erupts.
Shane is deep in what the guys call the 'good guy weed' headspace: convinced that Bill Belichick's young girlfriend is philosophically wrong. He invokes Socrates's itchy-butt thought experiment to argue that endlessly scratching a desire that never goes away is not true pleasure. Matt thinks he's losing his mind.
Lemaire Lee does not fart during the day — not voluntarily, ever. He waits until he's asleep, at which point his partner confirms it becomes 'Toot City.' Matt calculates he is probably 80 pounds of compressed gas. The bit escalates into a full discussion of morning blowouts and what peanut butter does to a man.
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Central subject of a long running debate about age-gap relationships and public displays of romance; serves as a proxy for a broader philosophical discussion about virtue and desire.
Jackass star discussed warmly as a comeback story, with Shane expressing genuine joy over Margera returning to skateboarding after years of public struggles.
Ancient Greek philosopher invoked by Shane as part of his 'virtue-pilled' argument, specifically the itchy butt thought experiment about whether perpetual desire constitutes true pleasure.
UFC fighter discussed in the context of his upcoming fight with Max Holloway and his dramatic physical transformation.
Pro wrestling legend cited as a positive counter-example to Shane's virtue argument: a man who openly indulges his appetites into old age with no apologies.
Retired UFC fighter mentioned as an example of an athlete who successfully transitioned to running a bar in Florida in retirement.
Chinese e-commerce platform from which Lemaire Lee has been ordering items in exchange for writing product reviews, the basis of his secret unboxing video operation.
College football team currently coached by Bill Belichick, used repeatedly as the punchline of jokes about his divided attention between coaching and his personal life.
NFL team formerly coached by Belichick; referenced repeatedly in the context of his coaching legacy and the team culture he built.
Episode sponsor; described as the world's largest online therapy platform. Shane did an elaborate personal ad read with a fictional backstory about conversion therapy.
Episode sponsor offering unlimited wireless plans at $15/month on the nation's largest 5G network.
The Jackass franchise and its new film are discussed at length, including the most disturbing stunt and its emotional finale.
Energy drink mentioned as the group debates whether the ingredient taurine is derived from bull semen (it is not).
Virginia city visited by Lemaire Lee, discussed in the context of the 2017 Unite the Right rally and its current transformation into what he describes as a bookstore-and-candle 'girl town.'
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
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Oysters are still alive when eaten, and they actively hold their shells shut when being opened.
Shane Gillisno source cited
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Oysters reproduce by simultaneously releasing eggs and sperm into the water, which mix freely ('free swimming larvae').
Matt McCuskerno source cited
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The claim that humans only use 10% of their brain is an urban legend; humans use 100% of their brain.
Lemaire Leeno source cited
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BetterHelp's 2026 State of the Stigma report surveyed 2,000 Americans and found that 85% believe getting mental health support is wise.
Shane GillisBetterHelp 2026 State of the Stigma report
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BetterHelp's 2026 State of the Stigma report found that 74% of Americans say society discourages people from seeking mental health support.
Shane GillisBetterHelp 2026 State of the Stigma report
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Bill Belichick met his girlfriend in 2021 when she was a student at Bridgewater State University reading a philosophy textbook on a plane; he signed the book.
Shawn Gardinino source cited
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Bill Belichick and his girlfriend began dating in 2023, when she was approximately 24 or 25 years old.
Shawn Gardinino source cited
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The expression 'knock on wood' (or 'touch wood') likely originates from a children's game of tag in the 1700s or 1800s where touching a tree served as a safe base.
Matt McCuskerno source cited
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Heroin users can remain standing at extreme angles because their central nervous system enters a reduced-activity 'sleep mode' state.
Shawn Gardinino source cited
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There is no historical evidence that Socrates engaged in pedophilic acts, though pederasty was institutionalized in ancient Athenian mentorship culture.
Shawn Gardinino source cited
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Bill Belichick is 74 years old and is the head football coach at the University of North Carolina.
Matt McCuskerno source cited
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Tiki torches are still banned in Charlottesville, Virginia, nearly a decade after the 2017 Unite the Right rally.