About 1 in 3 women face barriers to accessing prescription birth control.
Giggling about con men, country boys, and cigars
A woman faked an entire pregnancy for 9 months — including a fake baby bump photo shoot — and her boyfriend never once saw her stomach.
Giggly Squad
Giggling about con men, country boys, and cigars
A woman faked an entire pregnancy for 9 months — including a fake baby bump photo shoot — and her boyfriend never once saw her stomach.
TL;DR
Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo of Giggly Squad catch up on life, love, and the internet's latest obsessions. Paige rants about Uber Eats grocery delivery men who can't find garlic, while Hannah recaps the Las Culturistas Awards and a social media DM mishap [1] — Hannah Berner "Hannah Berner was seated front-row at the Las Culturistas Awards when the camera operator kept insisting she identify herself as 'Summer Ho…" 07:54 . The duo dives deep into the Netflix documentary "Maternal Instinct," dissecting a con woman who faked a pregnancy [2] — Paige DeSorbo "Paige DeSorbo doesn't care that her boyfriend Joe golfs constantly. What she can't handle is the mandatory post-round debrief. Her text bac…" 14:12 , bought her country boyfriend a truck she couldn't afford, and nearly got away with it. Key takeaway: if your gut says someone's off, trust it — nine times out of ten you're right [3] — Paige DeSorbo "Trust your gut about people 9/10 times: Paige DeSorbo argued that if you get a gut feeling about someone, nine times out of ten you are rig…" 36:01 .
Paige has a gripe with parades and Hannah is covering the most important documentary of the year.
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Before Hannah and Paige say a word, the episode opens with two back-to-back sponsor reads that set a surprisingly topical tone. Middi Health makes its pitch to women in perimenopause — a phase that can last a decade and that most women don't even recognize they're in — positioning virtual specialist care as the solution. Then Opill steps in to address a different reproductive health gap: 1 in 3 women still face barriers to prescription birth control, and Opill's FDA-approved, estrogen-free, over-the-counter pill is framed as the answer. Both ads land squarely in the women's health lane, giving the episode a purposeful opening before the hosts arrive.
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The show kicks off mid-chaos, with someone telling Paige that ringing ears is a medical issue, not a sign people are talking about her — her mother would disagree, apparently not in Italian. Hannah issues a mea culpa to the Vanderpump Rules community for her momentary lapse of judgment and pivots to the official Woman of STEM segment: an Uber Eats delivery driver who discovered that photographing the food with her feet in frame consistently earns larger tips. The segment is silly but affectionate, and the energy immediately establishes the loose, unfiltered dynamic the show is known for.
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What begins as a riff on Uber's female-driver option quickly escalates into one of Paige's most committed rants of the episode. She has nothing against men — except when it comes to grocery shopping, where she has spent 48 hours trying to get garlic cloves in their shell, only to receive a baffling bag of pre-peeled loose cloves from multiple male shoppers. One female shopper, on the first attempt, delivered exactly what she wanted. Paige's call to action: if Uber really cares about women's rights, it should extend the female-shopper option to Uber Eats grocery. Hannah connects it to lifelong memories of her dad losing the grocery list, and both agree the phenomenon has a name: weaponized incompetence.
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With the garlic rant still fresh, Hannah and Paige fall into a warm, nostalgic exchange about their fathers' identical grocery incompetence. Paige's most burned-in childhood memory is her dad shouting 'Where's the goddamn list?' — a direct quote she delivers with the gravity of scripture. Hannah's dad had a lighter touch, scribbling jokes at the bottom of the shopping list to amuse himself, which her mom did not find funny. The conversation circles into how both women panic differently when a parent doesn't answer the phone — Hannah assumes dad-level forgetfulness, while Paige immediately assumes her mom is dead on a doctor's table — before Paige ends it cleanly with her two-word verdict on male domestic incompetence.
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The Las Culturistas Awards provided Hannah with front-row seats and at least one deeply mortifying interaction. A camera operator — with roughly three minutes until airtime — wanted to label the front-row celebrities as 'Summer House.' Hannah, who hasn't technically been on Summer House for six years, found herself in an increasingly absurd negotiation: yes, she knows those people, but she's also done stand-up at The Stand, she does TikTok street bits, and honestly it's complicated. Paige finds this hilarious from the audience, and Sierra Hull — who was actually more connected to Summer House — was sitting right behind them. The story doubles as a meditation on the impossible task of explaining a non-linear career trajectory in three minutes to a stressed broadcast technician.
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After walking past Mandy Moore at the awards show, Paige is moved to make a sweeping societal argument: as millennials, they are not giving Mandy Moore nearly enough credit for her impact. Moore was Paige's first pop star, predating the full Britney-and-Christina era in her personal timeline. Hannah responds with her theory of blonde market saturation — Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, and Christina Aguilera left no lane for a fourth blonde pop star, and Mandy simply needed to dye her hair red. From there, both wonder why there has never been a dominant redhead pop star, noting that Chappell Roan is the closest thing they've ever had — but neither quite classifies her as a traditional pop star.
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The Knicks parade becomes an unlikely vehicle for social observation. Paige doesn't want to be negative — she says this sincerely — but 3 million people descending on lower Manhattan at 10 AM on a Thursday forces questions. Hannah finds it genuinely admirable that people want core memories, while Paige zooms out to the larger picture of men smoking cigars in crowds and what that says about the state of male bonding in America. The cigar detail delights both of them: neither had spent much time around cigar culture until Joe Gorga entered Paige's life, and they agree it is a whole world unto itself — alongside watches and golf.
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Paige has had an awakening about golf culture. She always assumed other women's complaints about golfer partners were about lost time — but now she realises it's about coming home and being expected to perform interest in a full round-by-round breakdown. Her text to Joe mid-round summed it up: 'Kim, there are people dying.' Hannah, who enjoys sports broadly, thinks she'd be a more receptive audience — but she also just spent an afternoon at Shinnecock Hills for US Open practice unable to identify a single professional golfer by appearance alone because they all have the same unremarkable body type as their managers and agents.
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Instagram's group chat feature has a flaw: when someone adds you to an existing conversation, you can scroll up and see everything said before you joined. This is how Hannah found herself reading a private exchange between Paige, Bowen Yang, and Matt Rogers from the previous year's Cool Girl of the Year win. She immediately sent an apology spiral explaining she hadn't ignored the messages, followed by more messages explaining the explanation — all just before the awards show. Paige's take is that this is exactly what every mean girl in high school did when they were mad at someone in their friend group: add a third party so she could see what had been said about her.
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The mid-episode sponsor block covers three very different categories. Ka'Chava uses the hosts' travel lifestyles to pitch its all-in-one nutrition travel packs — chocolate is the favourite flavour, and the emphasis on fiber as well as protein is highlighted. BetterHelp takes the longest slot and leads with its most striking data point: 85% of Americans believe therapy is wise, yet 74% say society actively discourages it. The hosts frame this as a normalisation project — the more you talk about it, the more it happens. Bombas rounds out the block with its comfort-meets-social-good pitch, donating an item to someone in need for every item purchased.
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Darryl Spencer of Crown Skin — a luxury men's grooming brand he built after leaving big tech — describes scaling to over $500,000 in monthly revenue using Amazon Ads targeting. The segment is brief before Hannah pivots sharply to the most-anticipated topic of the episode: the documentary Maternal Instinct. She issues an explicit spoiler warning and gives the Giggly Squad community until Monday to watch the film before she goes into full detail — because what happens, she promises, is genuinely, indefensibly crazy.
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The Maternal Instinct setup triggers a broader conversation about female menace. Paige makes her case simply: women are smart, so a woman who genuinely wants to harm you is terrifying in a way a man simply isn't. Hannah agrees, noting that she primarily fights with men precisely because a woman opponent immediately triggers the assumption that she's already operating a complex plan you're walking right into. The conversation briefly turns dark when Paige recalls a news story about two women having acid thrown on them by people on a moped in New Jersey — a targeted attack, details unknown. The hosts' survival advice: stay alert. Hannah ends the segment on a lighter note, quoting the idea that your enemies believe in you more than you believe in yourself — her enemies are, apparently, her Jaylen Brunson.
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Before the full documentary recap begins, Paige wants to make a point about gossip. The thing that makes Maternal Instinct so infuriating is that people in the small Oklahoma town had their suspicions, got gut feelings, and said nothing because they didn't want to be seen as stirring drama. Paige and Hannah frame this as a cautionary tale: sharing what you've heard about someone, far from being socially irresponsible, can be a legitimate safety mechanism. If the people around this woman had communicated with each other, things could have gone very differently. The argument dovetails with Hannah's red flag observation: when someone demonises others too intensely and too quickly, that itself is a warning sign.
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The episode's centrepiece is Hannah's extended recap of Maternal Instinct, delivered with the enthusiasm of someone who has just discovered a new religion. A beautiful woman arrives in a small Oklahoma town and sweeps Wade — an earnest, chunky, country-loving farmer — off his feet within days. She's loaded, she says, but can't access the trust fund just yet. She buys him a truck (there is nothing a country man wants more), then buys his mother a nice car — which is repossessed within three weeks because no payment was ever made. On Christmas Day, she gathers the whole family to announce she's buying them a $4 million farm. Everyone is cautiously excited. Then comes the pregnancy: she says she's expecting but won't let Wade touch her, won't let him come to appointments, and sends him a 2016-dated ultrasound as proof. For nine months, he never sees her stomach. She does a full photo shoot with a fake baby bump. The documentary opens — crucially — with her being stopped by police claiming she's just given birth in a car.
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After the Maternal Instinct recap winds down, Hannah pauses to explain the deeper appeal of con artists: they're fascinating not because of malice, but because they genuinely believe the reality they construct. Everyone else is bound by facts; they simply aren't. Paige immediately connects this to Hannah's refusal to identify as 'Summer House' at the awards show — same energy, different stakes. From there, the conversation rolls into Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: Hannah is still six episodes from the end, Paige teases the revelation that Dakota disclosed a decade-long heroin addiction at the reunion, and Taylor's decision to sleep with Dakota before The Bachelorette is analysed as a strategically devastating mistake. The hosts also debate whether reality shows should release episodes faster to compete with social media spoilers, holding up Love Island as the gold standard for near-real-time distribution.
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The second sponsor block of the episode covers four brands in quick succession. Life360's location-sharing pitch resonates personally with Hannah, who uses it to track her parents when they don't pick up. Lululemon spotlights its Breezily summer collection of lightweight, breathable cropped pants that look polished without effort — a key value proposition for summer dressing. PetSmart gets the full enthusiasm treatment, with both hosts enthusiastically riffing on the joy of shopping for cats online before the copy takes over. Experian Boost closes with its 14-point FICO score improvement claim, framed as recognition for financial habits you already practice — paying rent, utilities, and phone bills on time.
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The hosts take a casual detour into beverage culture, with Paige noting that Swig's milk-and-soda concoctions would kill Hannah, who rarely drinks a full Coca-Cola thanks to her dietitian mother. Hannah's caffeine confession then takes centre stage: she ordered two shots of espresso in a chai latte from a coffee shop whose caffeine hit differently, arrived home sweating, shaking, walking into walls, and lying on the bathroom floor while her cat Butters observed from the doorway. Paige is simultaneously alarmed and unsympathetic — two shots should not send a person to the hospital. The whole story lands as a perfect comedic counterpoint to the intense documentary content that came just before it.
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When life is peaceful and both hosts are content, they have a system: text Ally. Their mutual friend is reliably in some form of romantic or social chaos that provides the vicarious thrill they need without anyone getting hurt. Hannah describes Ally's texts as making her feel 'alive in her heart' — even when the content is upsettingly crazy. The segment doubles as a meta-commentary on how they manage the pod: if they're gabbing on the phone and a good story comes up, they now hang up on each other to save it for recording. It's a small insight into the discipline behind what seems like completely spontaneous conversation.
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Hannah's Mormon Wives journey is nearly complete, and the revelations are piling up. The Dakota storyline is the one she can't get past: the man was in active heroin addiction for 10 years and it wasn't mentioned until the reunion, despite being, in Hannah's view, the central context for his behavior throughout the season. Paige's angle on Taylor's arc is more analytical: getting romantically involved with someone who is your actual opponent gives them everything they need to use against you. The choice to sleep with Dakota before The Bachelorette handed him leverage, and the show captured all of it. The larger lesson, both agree, is that reality TV editors shape narratives in real time based on what the fandom responds to.
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The episode winds down with a series of rapid-fire closing bits. An upcoming cat mafia film earns a demand for producer credits from both hosts, who feel the concept — Italian cats seeking revenge — was clearly inspired by the Giggly Squad brand. The sunglasses debate is personal for Hannah: big sunglasses are officially back, but she has a small head and fears looking like a mosquito in them. Paige counters that a good pair of oversized sunglasses is the modern mask — the perfect social shield for mornings when you simply cannot engage with the world. The show closes on Paige's Italy trip reveal (packing starts next week) and a warm sign-off before a final Alexa Plus sponsor read closes the audio.
- Weaponized incompetence
- Deliberately performing tasks poorly or claiming inability so others take over; here used to describe men who repeatedly fail at grocery runs to avoid the chore.
- Perimenopause
- The transitional hormonal phase before menopause, lasting up to 10 years, characterized by irregular periods, hot flashes, mood swings, and other symptoms.
- FICO score
- A credit score model ranging from 300–850, used by lenders to assess creditworthiness; referenced in the Experian Boost sponsor segment.
- Experian Boost
- A free Experian feature that lets users add on-time bill payments (utilities, phone, rent) to their credit file to instantly raise their FICO score.
- Dysport
- A prescription injectable botulinum toxin used as an alternative to Botox to temporarily reduce wrinkles; metabolized at a different rate by some patients.
- Botox
- A brand name for botulinum toxin type A injections used cosmetically to relax facial muscles and reduce wrinkles; the most widely recognized brand in its category.
- Con man / con artist
- A person who gains others' trust through deception to defraud them; the hosts apply this to the Maternal Instinct documentary subject who fabricated a pregnancy and financial wealth.
- Talking heads
- In documentary filmmaking, interview segments where subjects speak directly to camera to narrate events; Paige references these as the soft-spoken women in Maternal Instinct.
- Natural selection
- Darwin's evolutionary principle whereby traits that aid survival are passed on; used sarcastically by Paige to predict the obsolescence of male Uber Eats shoppers.
- Titillated
- Mildly excited or aroused with anticipation; Hannah uses it to describe her eagerness watching the Las Culturistas Awards from the front row.
- Onus
- A burden of responsibility or duty; Paige uses it to say society isn't placing enough responsibility on recognizing Mandy Moore's impact.
- Cult
- A group showing extreme devotion to a leader who often exploits members; Hannah connects the HBO model-cult documentary to the Maternal Instinct con-woman story.
- Vitriol
- Cruel and bitter criticism; Hannah uses it to describe the negative feeling of publicly aligning herself with Summer House at the awards show.
- Precursor
- Something that comes before and leads to something else; Paige uses it to describe how owning a cat is a small preview of parenting.
Chapter 2 · 01:02
Intro Banter: Ears, Apologies & Woman of STEM
The show kicks off mid-chaos, with someone telling Paige that ringing ears is a medical issue, not a sign people are talking about her — her mother would disagree, apparently not in Italian. Hannah issues a mea culpa to the Vanderpump Rules community for her momentary lapse of judgment and pivots to the official Woman of STEM segment: an Uber Eats delivery driver who discovered that photographing the food with her feet in frame consistently earns larger tips. The segment is silly but affectionate, and the energy immediately establishes the loose, unfiltered dynamic the show is known for.
Claims made here
Opill is 98% effective when used as directed.
According to the Opill ad, about 1 in 3 women face barriers to accessing prescription birth control.
The Opill sponsor segment states the pill is FDA-approved, prescription-strength, estrogen-free, and 98% effective when used as directed.
Chapter 3 · 03:22
Paige's Uber Eats Grocery Rant & The Garlic Saga
What begins as a riff on Uber's female-driver option quickly escalates into one of Paige's most committed rants of the episode. She has nothing against men — except when it comes to grocery shopping, where she has spent 48 hours trying to get garlic cloves in their shell, only to receive a baffling bag of pre-peeled loose cloves from multiple male shoppers. One female shopper, on the first attempt, delivered exactly what she wanted. Paige's call to action: if Uber really cares about women's rights, it should extend the female-shopper option to Uber Eats grocery. Hannah connects it to lifelong memories of her dad losing the grocery list, and both agree the phenomenon has a name: weaponized incompetence.
Uber Eats lets you request a female driver but not a female grocery shopper — and Paige DeSorbo has receipts on why that matters. After 48 hours of failed garlic orders from men who sent her a bag of unpeeled cloves, one woman immediately nailed it.
Chapter 4 · 06:14
Dads, Lists & Weaponized Incompetence
With the garlic rant still fresh, Hannah and Paige fall into a warm, nostalgic exchange about their fathers' identical grocery incompetence. Paige's most burned-in childhood memory is her dad shouting 'Where's the goddamn list?' — a direct quote she delivers with the gravity of scripture. Hannah's dad had a lighter touch, scribbling jokes at the bottom of the shopping list to amuse himself, which her mom did not find funny. The conversation circles into how both women panic differently when a parent doesn't answer the phone — Hannah assumes dad-level forgetfulness, while Paige immediately assumes her mom is dead on a doctor's table — before Paige ends it cleanly with her two-word verdict on male domestic incompetence.
Both Hannah and Paige's dads had a habit of either losing the grocery list or coming home with entirely the wrong things. Paige's verdict: weaponized incompetence, period.
Chapter 5 · 07:50
Las Culturistas Awards Recap & The Camera Guy Incident
The Las Culturistas Awards provided Hannah with front-row seats and at least one deeply mortifying interaction. A camera operator — with roughly three minutes until airtime — wanted to label the front-row celebrities as 'Summer House.' Hannah, who hasn't technically been on Summer House for six years, found herself in an increasingly absurd negotiation: yes, she knows those people, but she's also done stand-up at The Stand, she does TikTok street bits, and honestly it's complicated. Paige finds this hilarious from the audience, and Sierra Hull — who was actually more connected to Summer House — was sitting right behind them. The story doubles as a meditation on the impossible task of explaining a non-linear career trajectory in three minutes to a stressed broadcast technician.
Hannah Berner was seated front-row at the Las Culturistas Awards when the camera operator kept insisting she identify herself as 'Summer House.' She spent three increasingly awkward exchanges trying to explain six years of reality TV career evolution — while the guy was live in three minutes.
Mandy Moore was just as talented as Britney and Christina — but the market was saturated with blondes. Hannah's diagnosis: Mandy needed to dye her hair red, and we still don't have a redhead pop star.
Chapter 6 · 10:20
Mandy Moore, Pop Star Overcrowding & Redhead Gap
After walking past Mandy Moore at the awards show, Paige is moved to make a sweeping societal argument: as millennials, they are not giving Mandy Moore nearly enough credit for her impact. Moore was Paige's first pop star, predating the full Britney-and-Christina era in her personal timeline. Hannah responds with her theory of blonde market saturation — Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, and Christina Aguilera left no lane for a fourth blonde pop star, and Mandy simply needed to dye her hair red. From there, both wonder why there has never been a dominant redhead pop star, noting that Chappell Roan is the closest thing they've ever had — but neither quite classifies her as a traditional pop star.
Three million people reportedly descended on lower Manhattan for the Knicks victory parade. Paige's first thought: nobody has a job? Her second thought: cigars and the loneliness epidemic.
Chapter 7 · 12:50
Knicks Parade, Cigars & The Loneliness Epidemic
The Knicks parade becomes an unlikely vehicle for social observation. Paige doesn't want to be negative — she says this sincerely — but 3 million people descending on lower Manhattan at 10 AM on a Thursday forces questions. Hannah finds it genuinely admirable that people want core memories, while Paige zooms out to the larger picture of men smoking cigars in crowds and what that says about the state of male bonding in America. The cigar detail delights both of them: neither had spent much time around cigar culture until Joe Gorga entered Paige's life, and they agree it is a whole world unto itself — alongside watches and golf.
Claims made here
The Knicks victory parade in downtown New York drew approximately 3 million people.
A news reporter claimed 3 million people attended the Knicks victory parade in downtown New York.
Paige DeSorbo doesn't care that her boyfriend Joe golfs constantly. What she can't handle is the mandatory post-round debrief. Her text back to him mid-round: 'Kim, there are people that are dying.'
Chapter 8 · 14:18
Golf, Golf Recaps & The Shinnecock Discovery
Paige has had an awakening about golf culture. She always assumed other women's complaints about golfer partners were about lost time — but now she realises it's about coming home and being expected to perform interest in a full round-by-round breakdown. Her text to Joe mid-round summed it up: 'Kim, there are people dying.' Hannah, who enjoys sports broadly, thinks she'd be a more receptive audience — but she also just spent an afternoon at Shinnecock Hills for US Open practice unable to identify a single professional golfer by appearance alone because they all have the same unremarkable body type as their managers and agents.
Claims made here
Professional golfers can sustain injuries from working out too much because becoming too muscular negatively affects their swing.
At Shinnecock for US Open practice, Hannah Berner discovered that professional golfers and their agents share the exact same body type. No one had a look that screamed 'athlete.' Some agents were more fit than the players.
Chapter 9 · 17:42
Instagram DM Mishap & Group Chat Chaos
Instagram's group chat feature has a flaw: when someone adds you to an existing conversation, you can scroll up and see everything said before you joined. This is how Hannah found herself reading a private exchange between Paige, Bowen Yang, and Matt Rogers from the previous year's Cool Girl of the Year win. She immediately sent an apology spiral explaining she hadn't ignored the messages, followed by more messages explaining the explanation — all just before the awards show. Paige's take is that this is exactly what every mean girl in high school did when they were mad at someone in their friend group: add a third party so she could see what had been said about her.
Hannah Berner accidentally got added to a years-old group chat with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang and could see all the previous messages. Her attempt to explain what happened turned into an increasingly panicked spiral of over-apologies right before the Las Culturistas show went live.
Chapter 10 · 19:20
Sponsor Block: Ka'Chava, BetterHelp & Bombas
The mid-episode sponsor block covers three very different categories. Ka'Chava uses the hosts' travel lifestyles to pitch its all-in-one nutrition travel packs — chocolate is the favourite flavour, and the emphasis on fiber as well as protein is highlighted. BetterHelp takes the longest slot and leads with its most striking data point: 85% of Americans believe therapy is wise, yet 74% say society actively discourages it. The hosts frame this as a normalisation project — the more you talk about it, the more it happens. Bombas rounds out the block with its comfort-meets-social-good pitch, donating an item to someone in need for every item purchased.
Claims made here
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 85% of Americans believe getting mental health support is wise, yet 74% say society discourages people from doing so.
BetterHelp has over 30,000 therapists and has served more than 6 million people globally.
BetterHelp has an average rating of 4.9 out of 5 for live sessions based on over 1.7 million client reviews.
Crown Skin has scaled to over $500,000 in monthly revenue with the help of Amazon Ads.
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found 85% of Americans believe getting mental health support is wise, yet 74% say society discourages it.
BetterHelp is described as the world's largest online therapy platform with over 30,000 therapists and more than 6 million people served globally.
Chapter 11 · 26:05
Amazon Ads Sponsor & Maternal Instinct First Mention
Darryl Spencer of Crown Skin — a luxury men's grooming brand he built after leaving big tech — describes scaling to over $500,000 in monthly revenue using Amazon Ads targeting. The segment is brief before Hannah pivots sharply to the most-anticipated topic of the episode: the documentary Maternal Instinct. She issues an explicit spoiler warning and gives the Giggly Squad community until Monday to watch the film before she goes into full detail — because what happens, she promises, is genuinely, indefensibly crazy.
Women who want to harm you are terrifying precisely because they're smart. Hannah and Paige agree: a man who hates you is predictable; a woman who hates you is already 10 steps ahead, executing a plan you're walking right into.
Chapter 12 · 27:00
Women Doing Evil & The Female Enemy Calculus
The Maternal Instinct setup triggers a broader conversation about female menace. Paige makes her case simply: women are smart, so a woman who genuinely wants to harm you is terrifying in a way a man simply isn't. Hannah agrees, noting that she primarily fights with men precisely because a woman opponent immediately triggers the assumption that she's already operating a complex plan you're walking right into. The conversation briefly turns dark when Paige recalls a news story about two women having acid thrown on them by people on a moped in New Jersey — a targeted attack, details unknown. The hosts' survival advice: stay alert. Hannah ends the segment on a lighter note, quoting the idea that your enemies believe in you more than you believe in yourself — her enemies are, apparently, her Jaylen Brunson.
Hannah Berner observed that when a woman hates you and means you harm, she is likely 10 steps ahead — making her far more terrifying than a man who does the same.
Chapter 13 · 29:30
Gossip as Public Safety: The Documentary Setup
Before the full documentary recap begins, Paige wants to make a point about gossip. The thing that makes Maternal Instinct so infuriating is that people in the small Oklahoma town had their suspicions, got gut feelings, and said nothing because they didn't want to be seen as stirring drama. Paige and Hannah frame this as a cautionary tale: sharing what you've heard about someone, far from being socially irresponsible, can be a legitimate safety mechanism. If the people around this woman had communicated with each other, things could have gone very differently. The argument dovetails with Hannah's red flag observation: when someone demonises others too intensely and too quickly, that itself is a warning sign.
Everyone in that small town knew something was off about this woman — and nobody said anything because they didn't want to get involved in drama. Paige's takeaway: gossip isn't petty, it's a community service.
A beautiful stranger rolled into a small Oklahoma town, swept farmer Wade off his feet, promised a $4 million farm on Christmas, and then faked an entire pregnancy — including a photo shoot with a fake belly. Wade never once saw her stomach.
Chapter 14 · 30:30
Maternal Instinct Full Recap: Con Woman, Country Boy & Fake Pregnancy
The episode's centrepiece is Hannah's extended recap of Maternal Instinct, delivered with the enthusiasm of someone who has just discovered a new religion. A beautiful woman arrives in a small Oklahoma town and sweeps Wade — an earnest, chunky, country-loving farmer — off his feet within days. She's loaded, she says, but can't access the trust fund just yet. She buys him a truck (there is nothing a country man wants more), then buys his mother a nice car — which is repossessed within three weeks because no payment was ever made. On Christmas Day, she gathers the whole family to announce she's buying them a $4 million farm. Everyone is cautiously excited. Then comes the pregnancy: she says she's expecting but won't let Wade touch her, won't let him come to appointments, and sends him a 2016-dated ultrasound as proof. For nine months, he never sees her stomach. She does a full photo shoot with a fake baby bump. The documentary opens — crucially — with her being stopped by police claiming she's just given birth in a car.
Con artists are fascinating because they fully believe their own lies. Hannah Berner argues that their superpower is opting out of shared reality — when you believe the con yourself, it becomes real.
The con woman in Maternal Instinct bought Wade's mom a nice car, but it was repossessed within about three weeks because it had never actually been paid for.
The Maternal Instinct documentary subject told the whole family on Christmas she was buying a $4 million farm for them.
Paige DeSorbo argued that if you get a gut feeling about someone, nine times out of ten you are right — and acting on it isn't being a mean girl.
Chapter 16 · 44:00
Sponsor Block: Life360, Lululemon, PetSmart & Experian Boost
The second sponsor block of the episode covers four brands in quick succession. Life360's location-sharing pitch resonates personally with Hannah, who uses it to track her parents when they don't pick up. Lululemon spotlights its Breezily summer collection of lightweight, breathable cropped pants that look polished without effort — a key value proposition for summer dressing. PetSmart gets the full enthusiasm treatment, with both hosts enthusiastically riffing on the joy of shopping for cats online before the copy takes over. Experian Boost closes with its 14-point FICO score improvement claim, framed as recognition for financial habits you already practice — paying rent, utilities, and phone bills on time.
Claims made here
Users who received an Experian Boost improved their FICO Score 8 from Experian by an average of 14 points.
Users who received an Experian Boost improved their FICO score 8 from Experian by an average of 14 points.
Chapter 17 · 46:00
Swig Soda, Espresso Overdose & Hannah's Bathroom Floor Morning
The hosts take a casual detour into beverage culture, with Paige noting that Swig's milk-and-soda concoctions would kill Hannah, who rarely drinks a full Coca-Cola thanks to her dietitian mother. Hannah's caffeine confession then takes centre stage: she ordered two shots of espresso in a chai latte from a coffee shop whose caffeine hit differently, arrived home sweating, shaking, walking into walls, and lying on the bathroom floor while her cat Butters observed from the doorway. Paige is simultaneously alarmed and unsympathetic — two shots should not send a person to the hospital. The whole story lands as a perfect comedic counterpoint to the intense documentary content that came just before it.
Claims made here
The Maternal Instinct documentary subject sent a 2016-dated ultrasound to people who met her years after 2016, suggesting she fabricated the pregnancy.
Hannah is deep in Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and can't believe they made it to the reunion without anyone mentioning Dakota's decade-long heroin addiction. Meanwhile, Paige explains how Taylor got strategically played before The Bachelorette.
Chapter 19 · 54:40
Mormon Wives Deep Dive: Dakota, Heroin & The Bachelorette Strategy
Hannah's Mormon Wives journey is nearly complete, and the revelations are piling up. The Dakota storyline is the one she can't get past: the man was in active heroin addiction for 10 years and it wasn't mentioned until the reunion, despite being, in Hannah's view, the central context for his behavior throughout the season. Paige's angle on Taylor's arc is more analytical: getting romantically involved with someone who is your actual opponent gives them everything they need to use against you. The choice to sleep with Dakota before The Bachelorette handed him leverage, and the show captured all of it. The larger lesson, both agree, is that reality TV editors shape narratives in real time based on what the fandom responds to.
Hannah ordered two shots of espresso in a chai latte thinking it was a reasonable morning choice. What followed was sweating, shaking, dizziness, and lying on the bathroom floor with her cat Butters watching in concern.
Hannah Berner said she got two shots of espresso in a chai latte and ended up sweating, dizzy, and lying on the bathroom floor for most of the morning.
Chapter 20 · 56:40
Cat Movies, Big Sunglasses & Italy Packing Outro
The episode winds down with a series of rapid-fire closing bits. An upcoming cat mafia film earns a demand for producer credits from both hosts, who feel the concept — Italian cats seeking revenge — was clearly inspired by the Giggly Squad brand. The sunglasses debate is personal for Hannah: big sunglasses are officially back, but she has a small head and fears looking like a mosquito in them. Paige counters that a good pair of oversized sunglasses is the modern mask — the perfect social shield for mornings when you simply cannot engage with the world. The show closes on Paige's Italy trip reveal (packing starts next week) and a warm sign-off before a final Alexa Plus sponsor read closes the audio.
The subject of the Maternal Instinct documentary faked her pregnancy for a full nine months without her boyfriend Wade ever seeing her stomach.
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Cast
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Annual awards show hosted by Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers that Hannah and Paige attended, generating several anecdotes about camera operators and DM mishaps.
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Pop star discussed as an underrated talent who was squeezed out of the early 2000s market by an overcrowding of blonde pop stars.
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SNL cast member and co-host of Las Culturistas who invited Hannah and Paige to the awards show and inadvertently added Hannah to an old group chat.
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Referenced as one of the dominant blonde pop stars of the early 2000s who contributed to Mandy Moore's commercial decline.
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Co-host of Las Culturistas with Bowen Yang; inadvertently added Hannah Berner to an old DM thread, causing a comedic over-explanation spiral.
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Sponsor; described as the world's largest online therapy platform with over 30,000 therapists, cited in relation to mental health stigma statistics.
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The NBA team whose victory parade downtown drew 3 million attendees, prompting Paige's commentary on parades and the male loneliness epidemic.
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Sponsor; the Breezily collection specifically highlighted as ideal summer clothing that is both breathable and polished.
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A documentary Hannah Berner recommends and recaps in detail, about a con woman who faked a pregnancy to scam her country boyfriend Wade.
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A reality TV show both hosts have been watching; discussed in relation to character Dakota's heroin addiction reveal and Taylor's Bachelorette storyline.
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Discussed extensively as Paige DeSorbo's primary frustration, specifically that it lets you request a female driver but not a female grocery shopper.
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Sponsor; a free tool that lets users add on-time bill payments to their Experian credit file to raise their FICO score by an average of 14 points.
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Sponsor; a family location-sharing app that Hannah endorses as a way to track parents who don't answer their phones.
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Sponsor; described as the first FDA-approved over-the-counter daily birth control pill in the US, available without a prescription.
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The Long Island golf club hosting US Open practice rounds; Hannah visited and found she couldn't distinguish pro golfers from their agents.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
About 1 in 3 women face barriers to accessing prescription birth control.
Opill is 98% effective when used as directed.
Perimenopause can last for up to 10 years and most women in perimenopause don't know they are in it.
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 85% of Americans believe getting mental health support is wise, yet 74% say society discourages people from doing so.
BetterHelp has over 30,000 therapists and has served more than 6 million people globally.
BetterHelp has an average rating of 4.9 out of 5 for live sessions based on over 1.7 million client reviews.
Users who received an Experian Boost improved their FICO Score 8 from Experian by an average of 14 points.
The Knicks victory parade in downtown New York drew approximately 3 million people.
Crown Skin has scaled to over $500,000 in monthly revenue with the help of Amazon Ads.
Professional golfers can sustain injuries from working out too much because becoming too muscular negatively affects their swing.
The Maternal Instinct documentary subject sent a 2016-dated ultrasound to people who met her years after 2016, suggesting she fabricated the pregnancy.