Crown Skin by Darryl Spencer scaled to over $500,000 in monthly revenue using Amazon Ads.
Giggling about crying, clam slams, and cake pops
More research money goes to male baldness than endometriosis, and it takes an average of 10 years just to get an endometriosis diagnosis.
Giggly Squad
Giggling about crying, clam slams, and cake pops
More research money goes to male baldness than endometriosis, and it takes an average of 10 years just to get an endometriosis diagnosis.
TL;DR
Hannah Berner is in Italy battling stomach chaos and sauna strangers, while Paige DeSorbo is in Toronto unable to smile after a Botox masseter mishap [1] — Hannah Berner "Both Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner had Botox masseter mishaps within three months of each other, making Paige unable to smile without loo…" 01:32 . The duo dissect Love Island US's Gen Z misogyny problem [2] — Paige DeSorbo "Love Island US's Gen Z male contestants are openly complaining that girls aren't sexual enough with them while simultaneously judging any g…" 25:30 , roast the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders' toxic coaching culture [3] — Hannah Berner "DCC cheerleaders work 12-hour game days — longer than the football players — for approximately $2 an hour, and coaches repeatedly tell them…" 30:30 , and rage over the fact that more research money goes toward male baldness than endometriosis [4] — Paige DeSorbo "Experian Boost raises FICO score avg 14 pts: Users who received a boost from Experian Boost improved their FICO score 8 by an average of 14…" 26:30 . Paige shares a genuinely useful TikTok tip: processing emotions means sitting in them before acting, which trains your body to feel safe feeling things [5] — Hannah Berner "DCC contestant Victoria's whole life was built around making the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, but nothing went right. Hannah and Paige conn…" 37:00 .
Paige DeSorbo is dealing with a Botox mishap that has affected her smile, while Hannah Berner is in Italy with her family, dealing with stomach issues and sauna encounters. The hosts catch up on Love Island drama, Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, the cake pop controversy, trademark disputes, and emotional processing.
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The episode opens with a pair of sponsor segments. First, Amazon Ads' Rising Stars series profiles Darryl Spencer, who left big tech to build Crown Skin, a luxury men's grooming brand, scaling to over $500,000 in monthly revenue. Then Hannah Berner delivers an ad for Opill, the first FDA-approved over-the-counter daily birth control pill in the US, noting that 1 in 3 women face barriers to prescription birth control and that Opill is 98% effective when used as directed.
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The episode proper kicks off with Paige coining 'Soft Smile Summer' — a movement born of necessity because her masseter Botox mishap has left her unable to produce a real smile without alarming people. Hannah reveals she's been laughing privately on FaceTime while posting smiling TikToks, which Paige clocks immediately as a betrayal. The conversation turns to the viral fallout: every nurse, doctor, and practitioner on their feeds is now posting advice videos, but all the advice lands the same way — 'you're kind of screwed for a few months.' Meredith Hayden (Wishbone Kitchen) and Meghan Trainor are named as fellow divas who went through the same thing. Paige and Hannah do some chaotic math and arrive at a 40% mishap rate across their combined procedures [1] — Hannah Berner "Both Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner had Botox masseter mishaps within three months of each other, making Paige unable to smile without loo…" 01:32 , concluding with Paige noting that nurses are trying to reassure the public that Botox isn't as bad as these two are making it seem.
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A brief but very funny detour into the logistical chaos of podcasting across time zones. Hannah is in Italy, Paige is in Toronto, and neither of them can reliably coordinate meeting times when the hour involves double digits. Paige confesses she nearly had a meltdown at the airport thinking she'd missed her flight, only to realize 2010 was 8:10 PM. The running gag escalates when Paige reveals she thought she was sprinting at 9 mph for 7 minutes straight — turns out the treadmill was set to km/h, shattering her brief Kendall Jenner-level athletic self-image. Hannah caps it by saying she stepped on a scale reading kilograms and decided not to convert the number because she liked it.
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Hannah's hotel sauna has become a recurring adventure. First, a man walked in and complimented her comedy special — unsettling. The next day, she got pulled into a gossip session with two strangers, only for one of them to recognize her as Hannah Berner. She gave them the tea, then kept it confidential. Day three: a girl in a full thong left a visible imprint on the bench. Meanwhile, Paige shares her own sauna story: at her apartment building in a women's locker room, she wore sneakers and kept her feet on the floor. A woman challenged her, saying it was rude because people lay their heads on the benches. Paige's comeback — that bare feet spread foot fungus — shut down the conversation [1] — Paige DeSorbo "A woman in a communal sauna told Paige DeSorbo it was rude to wear sneakers because people lay their heads on the benches. Paige's rebuttal…" 08:28 . The segment ends with both hosts agreeing that small hot spaces with strangers are their personal nightmare.
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Hannah explains that she always gets the opposite of traveler's constipation — everything runs through her. At dinner, she had to abruptly announce she was leaving or she would 'in fact shit herself at the table.' She ran back to her room, found turndown service blocking her bathroom, rushed to her brother's room, and sat in total darkness for the entire experience, guided only by her phone flashlight [1] — Hannah Berner "Hannah Berner's Italy trip has been derailed by her stomach running through her. She had to flee a dinner table mid-sentence, only to find …" 13:03 . The siblings had also swapped rooms earlier — Hannah went to the bathroom in one room, then decided she preferred the other room. Her brother's reaction: 'Did you take a shit in here?' The segment segues into European hotel observations (ready-made cutlery in every room), the joy of leftover ravioli, and the way vacationing with family collapses everyone back into their childhood roles.
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A dense sponsor block opens with Nature's Sunshine — 100% solar-powered, zero-emission supplement manufacturing, featuring chlorophyll stick packs and Power Beats, available with code GIGGLY for 20% off. Next, BetterHelp is introduced with data from its 2026 State of Stigma report: 85% of Americans think therapy is wise, yet 74% say society discourages it. BetterHelp has over 30,000 therapists, 6 million clients, and a 4.9/5 average rating from 1.7 million reviews — listeners get 10% off at betterhelp.com/gigglysquad. Finally, Ka'Chava promotes its travel nutrition packs, offering protein, fiber, probiotics, and greens in one convenient packet, available at kachava.com with code GIGGLY for 15% off.
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A theatrical Carvana ad (Queen Carvania sells her chariot) is followed by an AllTrails plug encouraging summer outdoor exploration. The hosts then briefly chat about hotel life: Paige once called down for an unpacking service that sorted all her clothes while she was at the pool; Hannah has laundry piled up and is dreading filling out the slip counting individual garments. The Love Island conversation is about to begin.
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Paige opens by admitting she got fully caught up on Love Island US — something she swore she wouldn't do. She teared up watching contestant Anaya break down after her partner Casey came back from Casa Amor with another girl. Paige recognized immediately that Anaya wasn't just upset about the guy; she was experiencing the particular horror of being filmed mid-breakdown on national television, unable to leave, with nowhere to hide [1] — Paige DeSorbo "Paige DeSorbo teared up watching a Love Island contestant cry — not because of the boy, but because she recognized the specific hell of bre…" 24:40 . Hannah connects this to her own reality TV experiences, noting that everything feels worse on camera because you know the world is watching. From there, the conversation pivots to a broader critique: the Gen Z male contestants on Love Island US are exhibiting concerning attitudes toward women's sexuality — complaining that girls aren't sexual enough with them while judging any girl who explores multiple connections [2] — Paige DeSorbo "Love Island US's Gen Z male contestants are openly complaining that girls aren't sexual enough with them while simultaneously judging any g…" 25:30 . Both hosts flag this as genuinely regressive behavior. The segment ends with the hosts bonding over jealousy of Kenzie's viral jump-split 'clam slam' move.
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Hannah dove into the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Netflix series and came out the other side with strong feelings. The coaches — particularly Charlotte Jones (Jerry Jones's daughter) and the blue-eyed authority figure the hosts describe as 'rich people terrifying' — are depicted as coldly dismissive, cutting girls for vague reasons or telling them to change their hair, then not making the team [1] — Hannah Berner "DCC cheerleaders work 12-hour game days — longer than the football players — for approximately $2 an hour, and coaches repeatedly tell them…" 30:30 . Hannah is particularly enraged by the 'these are the best years of your life' framing, which she says is deliberate manipulation to make underpaid, overworked young women feel grateful. The cheerleaders work 9 AM to 9 PM on game days — longer than the football players — for around $2 an hour [1] — Hannah Berner "DCC cheerleaders work 12-hour game days — longer than the football players — for approximately $2 an hour, and coaches repeatedly tell them…" 30:30 . Victoria's storyline hits close to home: a girl whose entire identity was built around becoming a DCC cheerleader, getting every signal to stop but refusing to quit. Hannah connects it directly to her tennis career [2] — Hannah Berner "DCC contestant Victoria's whole life was built around making the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, but nothing went right. Hannah and Paige conn…" 37:00 . The segment ends with both hosts imagining themselves in the audition room, doing impressions of the coaches delivering devastating criticism in the sweetest Southern tones.
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Hannah triggers Paige with a single fact: research funding for male pattern baldness significantly outstrips funding for endometriosis [1] — Paige DeSorbo "More research money goes toward curing male pattern baldness than studying endometriosis — a condition that takes an average of 10 years to…" 41:46 . Paige's response is instant and unfiltered — baldness is God's karma, hair transplants exist and cost $30 grand, and telling men to put a hat on is sufficient treatment. She pivots to the serious point: it takes an average of 10 years to get diagnosed with endometriosis, a condition most of the men controlling research budgets probably can't define. Hannah adds that whoever is voting on funding in the Senate likely doesn't know what endometriosis is. The segment is brief, furious, and one of the episode's most impassioned moments.
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A sponsor block opens with PetSmart — covering auto-ship, free same-day delivery, and Paige's identity as a cat mom who celebrates her cat Daphne's birthday as a 'need, not a want.' Lululemon follows with a pitch for its Breezily mid-rise cropped pants — lightweight, Swift fabric, polished without effort. Experian Boost promises an average 14-point FICO score improvement by adding on-time bill payments to your credit file, available via the free Experian app. Finally, Sephora promotes its newest beauty arrivals including the One/Size Liquid Blotting Paper Spray, Summer Fridays Shade Drops SPF 50, and Kayali fragrances.
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Hannah sets the scene: she's running late to a spray tan appointment, all Toronto roads are closed, her Uber is stuck, and she gets out to walk — straight into the middle of the Pride Parade [1] — Hannah Berner "Hannah Berner got stuck in Toronto Pride after all city roads closed and her Uber cancelled. She ended up dancing through the parade to Ari…" 47:56 . Rather than panic, she leans in, dancing to Ariana Grande's 'Rain on Me' through the route, exchanging 'yes queen' energy with a drag queen, and arriving at the spray tan studio with the greatest excuse possible. The hosts then veer into a conversation about the World Cup and soccer — Paige can't get into it because she can't tell when something good is happening since no one ever scores — before Hannah wonders how soccer players avoid defecating mid-game given the constant running. Paige confirms that marathon runners absolutely do, and that running immediately activates her own bowel urgency.
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The recurring 'Women in STEM of the Week' segment opens with a college student who lost her license and solved the problem by driving a Barbie Jeep around campus — fully committed, looking miserable, but getting to class [1] — Hannah Berner "Pride Parade grand marshal (accidental): Hannah Berner accidentally walked into the middle of the Toronto Pride Parade while rushing to a s…" 48:04 . Then Hannah introduces the cake pop drama: a creator accused another of stealing her Fruity Pebbles recipe. The accused responds that the base is just Betty Crocker mix — there is no recipe. The internet sides with the accused, the accuser's business gets cancelled, and Paige declares this is exactly why the patriarchy is winning [2] — Paige DeSorbo "A cake pop creator accused another of stealing her Fruity Pebbles recipe — even though neither posts recipes and the base is just Betty Cro…" 52:50 . The conversation extends to a woman attempting to trademark the phrase 'Hot Girl Walk,' which leads to a broader rant about internet culture turning everyone into a self-appointed legal expert. The hosts share their own experience: someone bought gigglysquad.com and demanded thousands of dollars for it. Their response: use a hyphen and move on.
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The episode's most genuinely useful segment arrives when Paige shares something that helped her get through an emotionally hard stretch. A TikTok explained that 'processing an emotion' doesn't mean talking, fixing, calling your mom, eating, or distracting yourself — it means sitting in the discomfort, doing nothing, and letting the feeling exist [1] — Paige DeSorbo "Processing an emotion doesn't mean talking about it or fixing it — it means sitting with the feeling, doing nothing, and letting it pass. T…" 57:30 . The mechanism: your body learns it is safe to feel, so the next time that emotion appears, you don't immediately panic. Paige admits she has never done this — she turns everything into a joke and then cries alone in her hotel room. Hannah admits she either yells immediately or reaches for her gua sha. They connect this to attachment theory and the book about attachment styles, which neither has read but both want to. The segment closes with Paige's summary: once you can handle your feelings, you are 'kind of fucking unstoppable.'
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The episode ends with Paige and Hannah riffing on what it would be like to walk into the DCC audition room themselves — with Judy and the other coaches delivering their signature sweet-but-savage feedback. Paige improvises lines about pear shapes, Paige's stubby fingers, her hair, and her smile looking like crying, all delivered in a cheerful Texas drawl. Hannah adds that some of the meanest people she's encountered have been Southern women who never change their tone, calling it 'demonic.' They wrap by thanking the gigglers, expressing genuine love, and closing out the episode. Post-roll ads for Alexa Plus and Side Hustle Pro podcast follow.
- Masseter Botox
- Botox injections into the masseter (jaw) muscle, used to slim the face or reduce jaw clenching; Paige and Hannah both had mishaps with this procedure.
- Casa Amor
- A recurring twist on the reality show Love Island where couples are separated and tempted with new potential partners.
- Red-pilled
- Internet slang for someone who has adopted regressive, often misogynistic views; used here to describe some male contestants on Love Island US.
- Clam slam
- Slang term coined on social media for a dramatic jump-split move performed by a Love Island contestant.
- Attachment theory
- A psychological framework describing how early relationships shape adult bonding styles, including anxious, avoidant, and secure attachment.
- Grand marshal
- The honorary lead figure of a parade; Hannah jokingly applied this to Paige accidentally leading Toronto's Pride parade.
- Thunderstruck
- The signature high-energy dance routine performed by the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, famous for its difficulty and iconic status.
- Endometriosis
- A chronic condition where tissue similar to the uterine lining grows outside the uterus, causing severe pain; cited as chronically underfunded compared to male hair loss research.
- Greenwash
- To make misleading claims about the environmental or natural credentials of a product; used in the Nature's Sunshine ad read.
- Incubus
- Here used loosely to mean a closed, pressure-cooker environment; Hannah used it to describe the isolated world of Love Island contestants (standard meaning: a demon or suffocating force).
- Autonomy
- The right or ability to make one's own choices; used when discussing a cheerleader's decision to dye her own hair.
- Perfunctory
- Carried out with minimal effort; not used verbatim but the concept applies to how the DCC coaches dismiss girls without substantive feedback.
- Demonic
- Used colloquially by Paige to describe the unsettling quality of Southern women delivering cutting insults in a sweet tone.
- FICO score
- A standardized credit score (range 300–850) used by lenders to assess creditworthiness; mentioned in the Experian Boost ad.
Chapter 1 · 00:00
Ads: Amazon, Opill
The episode opens with a pair of sponsor segments. First, Amazon Ads' Rising Stars series profiles Darryl Spencer, who left big tech to build Crown Skin, a luxury men's grooming brand, scaling to over $500,000 in monthly revenue. Then Hannah Berner delivers an ad for Opill, the first FDA-approved over-the-counter daily birth control pill in the US, noting that 1 in 3 women face barriers to prescription birth control and that Opill is 98% effective when used as directed.
Claims made here
Approximately 1 in 3 women face barriers to accessing prescription birth control in the US.
Opill is 98% effective when used as directed.
Crown Skin founder Darryl Spencer scaled his men's luxury skincare brand to over $500,000 in monthly revenue with help from Amazon Ads.
Opill, the first OTC daily birth control pill in the US, is FDA-approved, estrogen-free, and 98% effective when used correctly.
According to the Opill ad, about 1 in 3 women face barriers to accessing prescription birth control in the US.
Chapter 2 · 01:32
Intro: Soft Smile Summer and the Botox Mishap Update
The episode proper kicks off with Paige coining 'Soft Smile Summer' — a movement born of necessity because her masseter Botox mishap has left her unable to produce a real smile without alarming people. Hannah reveals she's been laughing privately on FaceTime while posting smiling TikToks, which Paige clocks immediately as a betrayal. The conversation turns to the viral fallout: every nurse, doctor, and practitioner on their feeds is now posting advice videos, but all the advice lands the same way — 'you're kind of screwed for a few months.' Meredith Hayden (Wishbone Kitchen) and Meghan Trainor are named as fellow divas who went through the same thing. Paige and Hannah do some chaotic math and arrive at a 40% mishap rate across their combined procedures [1] — Hannah Berner "Both Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner had Botox masseter mishaps within three months of each other, making Paige unable to smile without loo…" 01:32 , concluding with Paige noting that nurses are trying to reassure the public that Botox isn't as bad as these two are making it seem.
Claims made here
Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner both had Botox masseter mishaps within 3 months of each other, representing a combined 2-out-of-5 failure rate.
Both Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner had Botox masseter mishaps within three months of each other, making Paige unable to smile without looking like she's crying and sending nurses and doctors flooding their social feeds. The math works out to a 40% mishap rate — and all the free medical advice confirms they're both stuck for a few months.
Chapter 3 · 06:40
International Life: Time Zones, Treadmill Kilometers, and Hotel Quirks
A brief but very funny detour into the logistical chaos of podcasting across time zones. Hannah is in Italy, Paige is in Toronto, and neither of them can reliably coordinate meeting times when the hour involves double digits. Paige confesses she nearly had a meltdown at the airport thinking she'd missed her flight, only to realize 2010 was 8:10 PM. The running gag escalates when Paige reveals she thought she was sprinting at 9 mph for 7 minutes straight — turns out the treadmill was set to km/h, shattering her brief Kendall Jenner-level athletic self-image. Hannah caps it by saying she stepped on a scale reading kilograms and decided not to convert the number because she liked it.
Paige and Hannah's combined Botox masseter mishaps — Paige 1 for 3, Hannah 1 for 1 — work out to roughly 40% failure across their attempts.
A woman in a communal sauna told Paige DeSorbo it was rude to wear sneakers because people lay their heads on the benches. Paige's rebuttal: laying your sweaty body on a communal bench is far more disgusting, and bare feet spread foot fungus. She kept her sneakers on.
Chapter 4 · 08:40
Sauna Culture Wars
Hannah's hotel sauna has become a recurring adventure. First, a man walked in and complimented her comedy special — unsettling. The next day, she got pulled into a gossip session with two strangers, only for one of them to recognize her as Hannah Berner. She gave them the tea, then kept it confidential. Day three: a girl in a full thong left a visible imprint on the bench. Meanwhile, Paige shares her own sauna story: at her apartment building in a women's locker room, she wore sneakers and kept her feet on the floor. A woman challenged her, saying it was rude because people lay their heads on the benches. Paige's comeback — that bare feet spread foot fungus — shut down the conversation [1] — Paige DeSorbo "A woman in a communal sauna told Paige DeSorbo it was rude to wear sneakers because people lay their heads on the benches. Paige's rebuttal…" 08:28 . The segment ends with both hosts agreeing that small hot spaces with strangers are their personal nightmare.
Chapter 5 · 13:00
Italy Toilet Chaos and Sibling Regression
Hannah explains that she always gets the opposite of traveler's constipation — everything runs through her. At dinner, she had to abruptly announce she was leaving or she would 'in fact shit herself at the table.' She ran back to her room, found turndown service blocking her bathroom, rushed to her brother's room, and sat in total darkness for the entire experience, guided only by her phone flashlight [1] — Hannah Berner "Hannah Berner's Italy trip has been derailed by her stomach running through her. She had to flee a dinner table mid-sentence, only to find …" 13:03 . The siblings had also swapped rooms earlier — Hannah went to the bathroom in one room, then decided she preferred the other room. Her brother's reaction: 'Did you take a shit in here?' The segment segues into European hotel observations (ready-made cutlery in every room), the joy of leftover ravioli, and the way vacationing with family collapses everyone back into their childhood roles.
Hannah Berner's Italy trip has been derailed by her stomach running through her. She had to flee a dinner table mid-sentence, only to find turndown service in her room, then had to use her brother's pitch-black bathroom with just a phone flashlight. Her brother's response: 'Are you fucking kidding?'
Chapter 6 · 18:33
Ads: Nature's Sunshine, BetterHelp, Ka'Chava
A dense sponsor block opens with Nature's Sunshine — 100% solar-powered, zero-emission supplement manufacturing, featuring chlorophyll stick packs and Power Beats, available with code GIGGLY for 20% off. Next, BetterHelp is introduced with data from its 2026 State of Stigma report: 85% of Americans think therapy is wise, yet 74% say society discourages it. BetterHelp has over 30,000 therapists, 6 million clients, and a 4.9/5 average rating from 1.7 million reviews — listeners get 10% off at betterhelp.com/gigglysquad. Finally, Ka'Chava promotes its travel nutrition packs, offering protein, fiber, probiotics, and greens in one convenient packet, available at kachava.com with code GIGGLY for 15% off.
Claims made here
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found 85% of Americans believe getting mental health support is wise, but 74% say society discourages people from doing so.
BetterHelp has over 30,000 therapists, has served over 6 million people globally, and holds a 4.9/5 average rating from over 1.7 million client reviews.
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found 85% of Americans believe getting mental health support is wise, yet 74% say society discourages people from doing so.
BetterHelp has an average live session rating of 4.9 out of 5 based on over 1.7 million client reviews and has served over 6 million people globally.
Chapter 8 · 24:40
Love Island US: Gen Z Red Pills, the Clam Slam, and Crying on Camera
Paige opens by admitting she got fully caught up on Love Island US — something she swore she wouldn't do. She teared up watching contestant Anaya break down after her partner Casey came back from Casa Amor with another girl. Paige recognized immediately that Anaya wasn't just upset about the guy; she was experiencing the particular horror of being filmed mid-breakdown on national television, unable to leave, with nowhere to hide [1] — Paige DeSorbo "Paige DeSorbo teared up watching a Love Island contestant cry — not because of the boy, but because she recognized the specific hell of bre…" 24:40 . Hannah connects this to her own reality TV experiences, noting that everything feels worse on camera because you know the world is watching. From there, the conversation pivots to a broader critique: the Gen Z male contestants on Love Island US are exhibiting concerning attitudes toward women's sexuality — complaining that girls aren't sexual enough with them while judging any girl who explores multiple connections [2] — Paige DeSorbo "Love Island US's Gen Z male contestants are openly complaining that girls aren't sexual enough with them while simultaneously judging any g…" 25:30 . Both hosts flag this as genuinely regressive behavior. The segment ends with the hosts bonding over jealousy of Kenzie's viral jump-split 'clam slam' move.
Claims made here
Users who received a boost from Experian Boost improved their FICO Score 8 by an average of 14 points.
Paige DeSorbo teared up watching a Love Island contestant cry — not because of the boy, but because she recognized the specific hell of breaking down on camera and knowing the whole world is watching. Having lived it herself on reality TV, she felt it viscerally.
Love Island US's Gen Z male contestants are openly complaining that girls aren't sexual enough with them while simultaneously judging any girl who explores multiple connections. Hannah Berner clocked it as genuinely regressive behavior that the show is not calling out enough.
Users who received a boost from Experian Boost improved their FICO score 8 by an average of 14 points.
Chapter 9 · 30:30
Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Deep Dive
Hannah dove into the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Netflix series and came out the other side with strong feelings. The coaches — particularly Charlotte Jones (Jerry Jones's daughter) and the blue-eyed authority figure the hosts describe as 'rich people terrifying' — are depicted as coldly dismissive, cutting girls for vague reasons or telling them to change their hair, then not making the team [1] — Hannah Berner "DCC cheerleaders work 12-hour game days — longer than the football players — for approximately $2 an hour, and coaches repeatedly tell them…" 30:30 . Hannah is particularly enraged by the 'these are the best years of your life' framing, which she says is deliberate manipulation to make underpaid, overworked young women feel grateful. The cheerleaders work 9 AM to 9 PM on game days — longer than the football players — for around $2 an hour [1] — Hannah Berner "DCC cheerleaders work 12-hour game days — longer than the football players — for approximately $2 an hour, and coaches repeatedly tell them…" 30:30 . Victoria's storyline hits close to home: a girl whose entire identity was built around becoming a DCC cheerleader, getting every signal to stop but refusing to quit. Hannah connects it directly to her tennis career [2] — Hannah Berner "DCC contestant Victoria's whole life was built around making the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, but nothing went right. Hannah and Paige conn…" 37:00 . The segment ends with both hosts imagining themselves in the audition room, doing impressions of the coaches delivering devastating criticism in the sweetest Southern tones.
Claims made here
Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders work on game day from 9 AM to 9 PM, longer than the football players.
More research funding goes toward male pattern baldness than endometriosis.
DCC cheerleaders work 12-hour game days — longer than the football players — for approximately $2 an hour, and coaches repeatedly tell them these are the best years of their lives. Hannah Berner says that framing is a deliberate manipulation tactic to make overworked, underpaid young women feel lucky.
DCC contestant Victoria's whole life was built around making the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, but nothing went right. Hannah and Paige connected her story to Hannah's experience in tennis: sometimes the signs are all pointing at you to quit, and listening to them isn't failure — it's clarity.
Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders work a 12-hour day on game days — longer than the football players themselves — for extremely low pay.
More research money goes toward curing male pattern baldness than studying endometriosis — a condition that takes an average of 10 years to diagnose. Paige DeSorbo's response was the most unhinged and perfectly reasonable thing you'll hear all week.
Chapter 10 · 41:50
Endometriosis vs. Male Baldness: The Funding Outrage
Hannah triggers Paige with a single fact: research funding for male pattern baldness significantly outstrips funding for endometriosis [1] — Paige DeSorbo "More research money goes toward curing male pattern baldness than studying endometriosis — a condition that takes an average of 10 years to…" 41:46 . Paige's response is instant and unfiltered — baldness is God's karma, hair transplants exist and cost $30 grand, and telling men to put a hat on is sufficient treatment. She pivots to the serious point: it takes an average of 10 years to get diagnosed with endometriosis, a condition most of the men controlling research budgets probably can't define. Hannah adds that whoever is voting on funding in the Senate likely doesn't know what endometriosis is. The segment is brief, furious, and one of the episode's most impassioned moments.
Claims made here
It takes an average of 10 years to get diagnosed with endometriosis.
Paige DeSorbo stated it takes an average of 10 years just to get diagnosed with endometriosis, partly because the condition is chronically underfunded.
Chapter 12 · 47:56
Toronto Pride Parade and Soccer Pondering
Hannah sets the scene: she's running late to a spray tan appointment, all Toronto roads are closed, her Uber is stuck, and she gets out to walk — straight into the middle of the Pride Parade [1] — Hannah Berner "Hannah Berner got stuck in Toronto Pride after all city roads closed and her Uber cancelled. She ended up dancing through the parade to Ari…" 47:56 . Rather than panic, she leans in, dancing to Ariana Grande's 'Rain on Me' through the route, exchanging 'yes queen' energy with a drag queen, and arriving at the spray tan studio with the greatest excuse possible. The hosts then veer into a conversation about the World Cup and soccer — Paige can't get into it because she can't tell when something good is happening since no one ever scores — before Hannah wonders how soccer players avoid defecating mid-game given the constant running. Paige confirms that marathon runners absolutely do, and that running immediately activates her own bowel urgency.
Claims made here
Soccer players and marathon runners frequently defecate during competition because extended running triggers bowel movements.
Hannah Berner got stuck in Toronto Pride after all city roads closed and her Uber cancelled. She ended up dancing through the parade to Ariana Grande while the crowd cheered her on, arriving late to her spray tan appointment with the best excuse ever.
Hannah Berner accidentally walked into the middle of the Toronto Pride Parade while rushing to a spray tan appointment, ending up dancing through the route.
Chapter 13 · 52:50
Women in STEM of the Week: Barbie Jeep, Cake Pops, and Hot Girl Walk Trademark
The recurring 'Women in STEM of the Week' segment opens with a college student who lost her license and solved the problem by driving a Barbie Jeep around campus — fully committed, looking miserable, but getting to class [1] — Hannah Berner "Pride Parade grand marshal (accidental): Hannah Berner accidentally walked into the middle of the Toronto Pride Parade while rushing to a s…" 48:04 . Then Hannah introduces the cake pop drama: a creator accused another of stealing her Fruity Pebbles recipe. The accused responds that the base is just Betty Crocker mix — there is no recipe. The internet sides with the accused, the accuser's business gets cancelled, and Paige declares this is exactly why the patriarchy is winning [2] — Paige DeSorbo "A cake pop creator accused another of stealing her Fruity Pebbles recipe — even though neither posts recipes and the base is just Betty Cro…" 52:50 . The conversation extends to a woman attempting to trademark the phrase 'Hot Girl Walk,' which leads to a broader rant about internet culture turning everyone into a self-appointed legal expert. The hosts share their own experience: someone bought gigglysquad.com and demanded thousands of dollars for it. Their response: use a hyphen and move on.
Claims made here
Paris Hilton successfully trademarked the phrase 'That's Hot.'
A cake pop creator accused another of stealing her Fruity Pebbles recipe — even though neither posts recipes and the base is just Betty Crocker. The internet turned on the accuser, cancelling her business. Paige's verdict: this is exactly why the patriarchy is winning.
Someone tried to trademark 'Hot Girl Walk,' someone else held gigglysquad.com hostage for thousands of dollars, and Paris Hilton actually did trademark 'That's Hot.' Paige and Hannah break down why the internet makes everyone think they're a lawyer.
Paige noted that Paris Hilton successfully trademarked the phrase 'That's Hot,' as context for why people try to trademark common internet phrases.
Someone bought gigglysquad.com and demanded thousands of dollars from Paige and Hannah, who refused and added a hyphen to the URL instead.
Chapter 14 · 57:30
Mental Health Corner: How to Actually Process an Emotion
The episode's most genuinely useful segment arrives when Paige shares something that helped her get through an emotionally hard stretch. A TikTok explained that 'processing an emotion' doesn't mean talking, fixing, calling your mom, eating, or distracting yourself — it means sitting in the discomfort, doing nothing, and letting the feeling exist [1] — Paige DeSorbo "Processing an emotion doesn't mean talking about it or fixing it — it means sitting with the feeling, doing nothing, and letting it pass. T…" 57:30 . The mechanism: your body learns it is safe to feel, so the next time that emotion appears, you don't immediately panic. Paige admits she has never done this — she turns everything into a joke and then cries alone in her hotel room. Hannah admits she either yells immediately or reaches for her gua sha. They connect this to attachment theory and the book about attachment styles, which neither has read but both want to. The segment closes with Paige's summary: once you can handle your feelings, you are 'kind of fucking unstoppable.'
Processing an emotion doesn't mean talking about it or fixing it — it means sitting with the feeling, doing nothing, and letting it pass. That discomfort trains your nervous system to feel safe feeling things, so future emotions don't trigger panic. Paige says this single TikTok insight broke a month of sadness.
Processing an emotion means sitting with the feeling before acting on it — no fixing, calling, eating, or distracting — which trains your nervous system to feel safe feeling.
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Hannah Berner danced to Ariana Grande's 'Rain on Me' while accidentally marching through the Toronto Pride Parade.
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Named as another public figure who experienced a Botox mishap similar to Hannah and Paige's.
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Food creator Wishbone Kitchen mentioned as having experienced the same Botox masseter mishap as the hosts.
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Cited as an example of someone who successfully trademarked a common phrase ('That's Hot') as context for internet trademark debates.
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Hannah binged the Netflix documentary series and criticized its toxic coaching culture, low pay, and cult-like messaging to young women.
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Sponsor: the world's largest online therapy platform, cited in the context of destigmatizing mental health support.
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Featured in the opening ad for Crown Skin founder Darryl Spencer, credited with helping the brand scale to $500K/month.
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Men's luxury skincare brand founded by Darryl Spencer that scaled to $500K/month using Amazon Ads, featured in the opening sponsor segment.
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Paige and Hannah spent a significant segment analyzing gender dynamics, Gen Z attitudes, and contestant behavior on the current season of Love Island US.
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Both hosts experienced Botox masseter mishaps within three months of each other, making it the central health-humor theme of the episode.
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Sponsor: the first FDA-approved over-the-counter daily birth control pill in the US, promoted with code GIGGLY for 25% off.
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Paige DeSorbo is vacationing in Italy with her family, the backdrop for her stomach-related travel misadventures.
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Hannah Berner is in Toronto filming her comedy special, the setting for her sauna encounters and accidental Pride Parade participation.
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Approximately 1 in 3 women face barriers to accessing prescription birth control in the US.
Opill is 98% effective when used as directed.
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found 85% of Americans believe getting mental health support is wise, but 74% say society discourages people from doing so.
BetterHelp has over 30,000 therapists, has served over 6 million people globally, and holds a 4.9/5 average rating from over 1.7 million client reviews.
Users who received a boost from Experian Boost improved their FICO Score 8 by an average of 14 points.
Crown Skin by Darryl Spencer scaled to over $500,000 in monthly revenue using Amazon Ads.
It takes an average of 10 years to get diagnosed with endometriosis.
More research funding goes toward male pattern baldness than endometriosis.
Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner both had Botox masseter mishaps within 3 months of each other, representing a combined 2-out-of-5 failure rate.
Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders work on game day from 9 AM to 9 PM, longer than the football players.
Soccer players and marathon runners frequently defecate during competition because extended running triggers bowel movements.
Paris Hilton successfully trademarked the phrase 'That's Hot.'